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Old 11-27-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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"...the bias of Pravda is such that NO American should be willingly and knowingly spreading Pravda's propaganda."

Are you indirectly suggesting limits on speech, perhaps even limits on what Americans be allowed to read, or share, or discuss?

Pravda's business may be anti-American, but their people are not stupid, considering their history. If you want to talk about anti-American business, I can think of a few things this Administration has done that many would call anti-Ameican.

Since you say that "Americans as a whole have virtually no grasp on logic", I presume that you are not an American and therefore have an excellent grasp on logic. It must not be the liberal education by liberal academia that leads to such lack of logic for Americans. Probably something in the water, right?



Never said it has credibility. That doesn't change the fact that the article mirrors our present condition. You don't have to believe it but anyone with a grasp on logic would be able to see at least some of it, and anyone with some level of intellectual honesty would admit it, if only privately to themselves.

Fact is, Pravda is USING Obama, and he supplied all the material.



See below -- Guy says it well.
I was pretty clear in my statements. Pravda is anti-American propaganda. Americans, like yourself, who spread that propaganda are spreading an anti-American agenda. This is illogical and irrational.

The FACT that you state that "never said it (Pravda) has credibility", and yet you quote and cite Pravda as if it were a credible source is illogical and irrational.

"You don't have to believe it but anyone with a grasp on logic would be able to see at least some of it" is nonsensical.

Pravda isn't USING Obama, Pravda is USING propaganda that is patently anti-American. And you and other Americans are actively spreading and supporting anti-American propaganda. And trying to defend yourselves. It defies all logic.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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When, at the Soul Train Awards, Jamie Faxx goes on a diatribe praising Obama as "Our Lord and Saviour" it tells you just how much we've become BFE
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:08 AM
 
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Comments from Obama's mesmerized fan base are consistently true to form, and not surprising.

It's rather fun to watch them scrambling to salvage their hurt egos after such a scathing blow from a major newspaper, Putin's mouthpiece in Russia, a country that Obama thought was a friend.

They not only commented on Obama, they also had some interesting observations to make about those who elected him. That must hurt.
Have you read Pravda?
I lived in Russia for seven years and can read it in the original language: It has become the Russian version of the National Enquirer. This is not your grandad's Pravda.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Pravda really does not have credibility. Their head line is incorrect...They used the word illiterate. The right word would have been stupid...Lots of illiterates are intelligent. Pravda should have said that the election was won through general lack of a majority that is intelligent...That would be the truth- but that is the truth in Russia also- or for human beings all over the planet..The average IQ for humans is just under 100..go figure.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I was pretty clear in my statements. Pravda is anti-American propaganda. Americans, like yourself, who spread that propaganda are spreading an anti-American agenda. This is illogical and irrational.

The FACT that you state that "never said it (Pravda) has credibility", and yet you quote and cite Pravda as if it were a credible source is illogical and irrational.

"You don't have to believe it but anyone with a grasp on logic would be able to see at least some of it" is nonsensical.

Pravda isn't USING Obama, Pravda is USING propaganda that is patently anti-American. And you and other Americans are actively spreading and supporting anti-American propaganda. And trying to defend yourselves. It defies all logic.
It doesn't appear that you are comprehending what you read, nor are you reading objectively. You are reacting emotionally. Nothing about the points in the article, just attacking the messengers.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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It doesn't appear that you are comprehending what you read, nor are you reading objectively. You are reacting emotionally. Nothing about the points in the article, just attacking the messengers.
The "points" in the article?

There are no "points" in the article. There can be no "points" in an article whose underlying premise is false. If the premise is false, any arguments based on that premise are equally false. That's called LOGIC.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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No, those of us who put Obama back in office are intelligent, literate citizens who think for ourselves. We don't spend hours in front of the TV drooling while Fox News spoon feeds us their endless right wing propaganda like you do. Just because your guy didn't win doesn't mean that PRESIDENT Obama was elected by people who are stupid. Your sour grapes taste SWEET to us!
Which one are you in this video where informed Obama voters were demonstrating their intelligence as to their political knowledge? One reason to vote is to have someone political knowledge, even at the most basic level and info that had been much publicized. There is no literacy test to determine if one can vote. Millions of idiots vote.


How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters - YouTube
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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Pravda really does not have credibility. Their head line is incorrect...They used the word illiterate. The right word would have been stupid...Lots of illiterates are intelligent. Pravda should have said that the election was won through general lack of a majority that is intelligent...That would be the truth- but that is the truth in Russia also- or for human beings all over the planet..The average IQ for humans is just under 100..go figure.
If most everyone's stupid (save you, I'm sure), then how would you suggest leaders of countries be chosen?
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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Which one are you in this video where informed Obama voters were demonstrating their intelligence as to their political knowledge? One reason to vote is to have someone political knowledge. There is no literacy test to determine if one can vote. Millions of idiots vote.


How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters - YouTube
Millions of idiots vote, for both parties, and for the little parties in between.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Have you read Pravda?
I lived in Russia for seven years and can read it in the original language: It has become the Russian version of the National Enquirer. This is not your grandad's Pravda.
Even the Enquirer gets it right once in a while.

The article in question is pretty much a mirror image article, I say.
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