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Old 11-27-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
You stated that your assertion "depends".

Do you want to review?
Yes depends. Dependent on a variable which didn't exist in thread .
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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What about the sneaky trip Romney's son took to Russia on his father's behalf during the campaign?

Matt Romney Went to Russia With Secret for Putin -- Daily Intel

Romney's Son Travels to Russia, Reassures Putin Allies - NationalJournal.com
You're seriously going to equate an anonymous rumor of Romney wanting good relations with Russia to Obama being caught on tape saying he would be more flexible on missile defense?

Unbelievable.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I am not directing my opinion to one party. It is a national problem. My post was directed to a democrat who declared that everyone who voted for Obama are intelligent and literate............well that's pretty dumb, IMO. When one has to justify their opinions, beliefs, actions, etc. by their "intellect and literacy level" tells me that that person overestimates their limited knowledge.

I've said it elsewhere - dumbing down is not restricted to politics. It has become a national disease of epic proportion and nothing is being done to cure it.
Wrong, softy. I was responding to a blanket statement issued by a republican idiot who said everyone who voted for Obama must be illiterate. The ones that I know are not thus rendering his statement inaccurate.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Yes depends. Dependent on a variable which didn't exist in thread .
You said, "Patriots are not socialists."

HistorianDude pointed out that the two are not exclusive of one another. Meaning, of course, that a patriot can be a socialist.

You responded, "It depends."

Which means that your assertion, "Patriots are not socialists", is not a correct assertion because other factors must be considered.

This thread did not limit the variables. You cannot argue that it did so with any degree of credibility.

When you remarked, "It depends," you made your assertion conditional, and not absolute, therefore rendering it irrelevant to the thread, BECAUSE the thread did not limit the variables.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I agree with Pravda.
Oh, I'm sure you do...

A diplomat, or a wannabe "I'd really like to be President" type? An intelligent and articulate leader of a country and responsible and likeable partner in the international community, or a bumbling, fumbling non-professional amateur whose grasp of international politics is to claim Syria is Iran's ticket to the sea?

Did he actually say that? Yes, in other words... and he actually said a whole lot more.

Did he actually say that the most dangerous enemy of the United States of America is Russia? Then Mitt Romney is a remnant of the Bush regime, lock, stock and barrel, lined up with the Bush era cronies waiting to spring into action the second the election is finished - you know, the guys who left us all in this almighty mess, the guys who screwed up the economy big-time and left Barack Obama with a massive financial black hole to fill.

Despite inheriting a calamitous situation, and despite the fact that he has had four short years to do anything, Barack Obama has, in fact, achieved a great deal.


Pravda: Obama or Romney
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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No, those of us who put Obama back in office are intelligent, literate citizens who think for ourselves. We don't spend hours in front of the TV drooling while Fox News spoon feeds us their endless right wing propaganda like you do. Just because your guy didn't win doesn't mean that PRESIDENT Obama was elected by people who are stupid. Your sour grapes taste SWEET to us!
LOL, you really mean those who put Obama back in office are illiterates and think about yourselves only.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Nice try. But I didn't have a self-contradiction. If you want to talk about American media and propaganda, bring it on. But this thread is about a Pravda article, and the point that Pravda is nothing more than a propaganda mouthpiece for the Russian government, has never been anything but a propaganda mouthpiece for the Russian government, and that the Russian government has an interest in sowing distrust and dislike for American leaders and their policies, means that the bias of Pravda is such that NO American should be willingly and knowingly spreading Pravda's propaganda. Pravda's business is to be anti-American. Now, if you want to challenge that point, please do so. You don't have a leg to stand on, but you can certainly try.

As for you belief that American schools have been "conquered by Communists long ago, paving the way for a revisionist history..." oh, bs! Blatantly untrue. While our schools are not the best schools in the world, and American students have glaring gaps in their knowledge of history, the worst sin is that Americans as a whole have virtually no grasp on logic. And that they think they are masters of logic. Your embrace of the thesis of this Pravda article is a demonstration of that.
No, the worst sin is a conscious refusal to learn new information, and the automatic rejection of information that conflicts with established beliefs without reasonable cause to do so. This tendency dooms the sufferer to remaining in a perpetual state of ignorance with no hope of intellectual growth, guaranteeing that they will be just as ill-informed in the future as they were in the past. And that breaches the boundary between simple ignorance and gross stupidity.

What you deem "BS" is in reality, documented, proven fact, that was uncovered by the United States House of Representatives "Reece Commission" on Exempt Foundations, and their anti-American activities investigation that was conducted in 1955, labeled "The Dodd Report". For a full reading of my post on this matter, and a video testimonial from Norman Dodd himself and his findings as the lead investigator for the commission go here: //www.city-data.com/forum/26407332-post30.html

In short, Norman Dodd uncovered documents at such organizations as the Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Endowment of their original charter purpose back in the 1908 time frame to do PRECISELY what you claim to be BS. DOCUMENTED in the minutes of the organizations themselves, and an historical account of their early activities to affect this rewriting of American History for the purpose of promoting socialist-communist ideological acceptance of the American public for the ultimate goal of "merging the United States with the Soviet Union". This sounds so outlandish to you because it is in direct conflict with everything you've been taught to believe since the day you were born ... which, by the way, was the express purpose of this takeover of the education (indoctrination) system. You and the vast majority provide the tangible proof of it's tremendous success.

This is by no means a "conspiracy theory", but is indeed a "Conspiracy Reality", and Americans of all political persuasions must stop falling for this false left-right dogma which is designed to keep you ignorant. Everyone must reject this propaganda programming and indoctrination, and open your eyes and your mind. It is literal craziness to stare at the blazing noon Sun, and continue to insist that it is night time .... in this case, rejecting clear, documented evidence that shows the roots and history of this conspiracy, while denying it exists. To refuse to analyze and assess this information is pure idiocy born of either dogged stubbornness, or emotional cowardice.

Wake up.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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You're seriously going to equate an anonymous rumor of Romney wanting good relations with Russia to Obama being caught on tape saying he would be more flexible on missile defense?

Unbelievable.
Hi son?

You made it seem like it was Romney himself.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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You said, "Patriots are not socialists."



You responded, "It depends."

Which means that your assertion, "Patriots are not socialists", is not a correct assertion because other factors must be considered.

This thread did not limit the variables. You cannot argue that it did so with any degree of credibility.

When you remarked, "It depends," you made your assertion conditional, and not absolute, therefore rendering it irrelevant to the thread, BECAUSE the thread did not limit the variables.
Irrelevant.

See below

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HistorianDude pointed out that the two are not exclusive of one another. Meaning, of course, that a patriot can be a socialist.
And you believe.

The two can be exclusive. Don't forget Obama is a socialist. He is destroying the country.

What patriot destroys there own country?
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Oh, I'm sure you do...

A diplomat, or a wannabe "I'd really like to be President" type? An intelligent and articulate leader of a country and responsible and likeable partner in the international community, or a bumbling, fumbling non-professional amateur whose grasp of international politics is to claim Syria is Iran's ticket to the sea?

Did he actually say that? Yes, in other words... and he actually said a whole lot more.

Did he actually say that the most dangerous enemy of the United States of America is Russia? Then Mitt Romney is a remnant of the Bush regime, lock, stock and barrel, lined up with the Bush era cronies waiting to spring into action the second the election is finished - you know, the guys who left us all in this almighty mess, the guys who screwed up the economy big-time and left Barack Obama with a massive financial black hole to fill.

Despite inheriting a calamitous situation, and despite the fact that he has had four short years to do anything, Barack Obama has, in fact, achieved a great deal.


Pravda: Obama or Romney
Yes I do agree with their assessment of the election.

You can agree with an enemies assessment on certain things.
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