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Old 11-26-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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The Geneva Convention prohibits the host country from entering embassy or consulate property without authorization from the Ambassador.
I know. I also know that this aspect of extraterritoriality is not the same as sovereignty.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I realize your public education didn't work too well. It's spelled "Fox".

And if you ever bothered to even watch Fox, you would know they always bring both sides to a discussion.

I'm sorry the "We Report, You Decide" thing is so difficult for some folks to comprehend.
And the leftists claim to be "tolerant" and "open-minded." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Oh course he knew the dangers. That's probably why he called for more security but was denied it, especially the night of the attack. The question is who gave the order to stand down?
From the information that I got was that the force that could have done any real protection was too far away and the unit that was close by was too small to be effective. But I do know one thing, this had nothing to do with the president.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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The Geneva Convention prohibits the host country from entering embassy or consulate property without authorization from the Ambassador.
Would that apply if the CIA were holding political prisoners?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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Yes . . . because the REAL issue is that the ambassador made multiple requests for more security based on reported terrorist rumblings starting weeks before the event. The requests were not only denied but then his security force was even reduced further just prior to the event. THAT is why it was hyped. (We needed Ironman to intervene to prevent the tragedy due to the incompetence (or worse) of the administration.)

Obama wanted no calls for war prior to the election and remains opposed after.
The security issue was a generic Libya one. Read the actual documents. The max ever contemplated for the consulate appears to have been 5 supported by local contractors. There were in fact 5 there the night the Ambassador died. Two locals and three traveling with the Ambassador.

What is it you want Obama to do? Maybe drone the local fish-monger? Sheesh. You want to see the world fall in on Obama have him champion a permanent Garrison in Benghazi.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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Would that apply if the CIA were holding political prisoners?
Do you know what their nationality was if there were actual prisoners being held?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Do you know what their nationality was if there were actual prisoners being held?
Who knows but that type of information will never be released by the CIA or the State Dept
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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I listen to some of threads and I become convinced we have lost our collective minds.

This things reeks of a CIA operation. Maybe an illegal one. Maybe not. But they are not going to tell us in our lifetimes what actually was going on.

And the Ambassador reeks of spook. Who else enters a country in the midst of a revolution on a third party ship and establishes liaison with the rebels.

And people keep clamoring for full disclosure!

How dumb can we get. Even if the government claimed they were making a clean breast of it...would you believe them? Sheesh - Spook time boys and girls. Maybe we will know what actually happened in 40 years...but I doubt it.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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This thread is not about MSNBC (faux news).
With all due respect Ma'am, I don't watch fox or msnbc. I consider both to be biased.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I listen to some of threads and I become convinced we have lost our collective minds.

This things reeks of a CIA operation. Maybe an illegal one. Maybe not. But they are not going to tell us in our lifetimes what actually was going on.

And the Ambassador reeks of spook. Who else enters a country in the midst of a revolution on a third party ship and establishes liaison with the rebels.

And people keep clamoring for full disclosure!

How dumb can we get. Even if the government claimed they were making a clean breast of it...would you believe them? Sheesh - Spook time boys and girls. Maybe we will know what actually happened in 40 years...but I doubt it.
Good points, do people really expect a full disclosure from the CIA when we have threats from terrorists threats, whether there were mistakes or not don't expect front page news on what transpired for a few years. People demanding a detailed explanation on the CIA methods leading up to the assassination may have to wait some time.

Right on about the ambassador, he had very little protection when he first entered the Libya, by all accounts he had no protgection and could have been killed several times, yet chose to live with minimal protection.
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