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Old 12-06-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
That's fine, but the judge by law is not allowed to force someone to go to church.
It was a choice.

 
Old 12-06-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It has nothing to do with one god being "better" than theother. I said making me worship someone else's god is different than asking me to worship my own god. Get it?
Government has NO BUSINESS making any American worship any God.

Get it?
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: California
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It was a choice.
Not in a legal sense it wasn't. "Church" isn't an alternative punishment to "jail" by any law. He may as well just have said "You should go to jail but if you come over and be my slave for a year I'll let you off". It's a choice, right?
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not in a legal sense it wasn't. "Church" isn't an alternative punishment to "jail" by any law. He may as well just have said "You should go to jail but if you come over and be my slave for a year I'll let you off". It's a choice, right?
Choice #1: Prison

Choice #2: 10 year probation, ancke bracelet, making speeches, drinking monitoring and the church.

You seem to think his entire sentence was to go to church.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Government has NO BUSINESS making any American worship any God.
I suppose you'd rather choose prison.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
You seem to think his entire sentence was to go to church.
And what you continue to fail to grasp is that making church a condition of his punishment is outside the authority of the judge! He is not allowed to do that. Period. No discussion, no debate, he acted outside what his statutory and constitutional authority allowed, and frankly, in such an egregious manner, he should face sanctions and probably disbarment.

It was judicial misconduct.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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"The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma has filed a judicial complaint against a Muskogee County district judge who sentenced a teenager to attend church for 10 years as a condition of parole."

ACLU files judicial complaint over Oklahoma teen's church sentence | NewsOK.com


This is a Christian Nation. Accordingly, all criminal sentences should require church attendance. Why does the ACLU hate America so much?
Not sure if you are serious or sarcastic
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I suppose you'd rather choose prison.
No one chooses prison and a judge can't give you the choice to go to church.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It was a choice.
Some of these people just can't be convinced that the kid was given a choice.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Some of these people just can't be convinced that the kid was given a choice.
And some of you can't get it through your head that church cannot be that choice. The judge went above the law when giving that choice.
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