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Hmm, Democrats had a majority for the first two years of Obama's first term and yet the fiscal cliff is all Republicans' fault. No, "Congress" is at fault, both republicans and democrats. Their wasteful spending for decades (many of which Democrats held the majority) is what has ultimately lead to this problem. Raising taxes isn't going to work unless Congress begins making real spending cuts instead of a reduction of the next increase in the budget. The federal government needs to start living within it's means and focus on what their duties and responsibilities are as spelled out in the constitution. Eliminate redundant agencies whose purpose cross over. Eliminate US bases on foreign soil including Japan, Germany, Italy (last I checked WW2 was over), Korea (that's over too), Kosovo/Bosnia, Afghanistan, and Iraq among many others. I honestly feel Congress doesn't want to eliminate foreign bases because they use those bases as a taxpayer paid vacation. Spend a day on the base getting picture taken and then spend the rest of the time on vacation. Saw this happen in Italy. We could redeploy the troops to our souther border where drug gang violence is spilling over into our country and the gangs are supported by the Mexican military.
I saw a news report saying that China and Japan are re-arming and showing aircraft carriers aplenty, possible battle over Monster Island-then nothing.
As president, he has the authority to order all US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan from the day he took office. Therefore, the fact that the troops are still there is his fault.
Funny how you didn't make any mention of who put those troops there and left them for years longer than he should have.
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Yes, Bush increased our nation's debt. So why did Obama further increase that debt way beyond anything Bush did for two terms within Obama's first term? He owns all that additional debt created during his time in office.
Funny how you didn't mention the Great Recession and what the effects of not addressing that crisis would have been.
As president, he has the authority to order all US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan from the day he took office. Therefore, the fact that the troops are still there is his fault.
Yes, Bush increased our nation's debt. So why did Obama further increase that debt way beyond anything Bush did for two terms within Obama's first term? He owns all that additional debt created during his time in office.
0bama said Bush was "unpatriotic" and "irresponsible" for adding four trillion in new debt over eight years, and running the debt up to $9 trillion.
Meanwhile, 0bama ran up $4 trillion in 2.5 years, and we are now sitting at $16 trillion in debt. Not to worry though, the 0bama sycophants are happy as pigs in ****. They moaned about Bush's $300 billion deficits, and yawn at 0bama's $1.3 trillion deficits.
So if you debate with a liberal 0bama supporter, just realize that you are dealing with a stooge, who only cares about Democratic Party politics, and nothing else. Fifteen million new people on Food Stamps, a fifty year high in poverty, and thirty year low in workforce participation, $16 trillion in debt, liberals don't freaking care!!!! Or they would be screaming about it from the roof tops with the rest of us.
The Pubs are snared in their own trap this time, and they don't have any way out. They made this mess. They're now hip deep in it and sinking.
How so? 0bama signed every piece of legislation that created this so called fiscal cliff. 0bama owns it.
BTW, it's you me and everyone else that will suffer under this, democratic party partisanship does not create a protective shield around you from the negative fallout of 0bama's policies.
'The Republicans got what they wanted from Wanniski's work. They held power for thirty years, made themselves trillions of dollars, cut organized labor's representation in the workplace from around 25 percent when Reagan came into office to around 8 of the non-governmental workforce today, and left such a massive deficit that some misguided "conservative" Democrats are again clamoring to shoot Santa with working-class tax hikes and entitlement program cuts.'
Obama holds all the cards and the Republicans know it. John Boehner knows he is defeated and is clearing the decks for a deal by tossing the tea party Republicans overboard and purging key committees of them so the deal can flow through without the conservatives gumming up the works. And Obama is not going to give the Republicans much more than a few small face saving spending cuts. No touching Social Security or Medicare and PBS and Amtrack live on to see another day too. In other words, Obama is finally using his power to let the Republicans know who the boss is. That is what he should have been doing the past 4 years.
The House of Representatives is controlled by the Republicans. As such, they hold the purse strings. For that reason, it is the Republicans that hold the cards.
The problem is John Boehner. He has no backbone, and is willing to throw conservatives under the bus. Obama has no mandate for his policies. He won with the narrowest of majorities, and the Republicans easily held the House. Boehner is an "establishment Republican" seeking to "get along" even if it means screwing American citizens, and prolonging the agony of this administrations languishing economy.
The best thing that could happen right now, is for the Republicans to vote "present" and allow us to go over this "cliff." Liberals think that would be a victory for Obama, but I (and many others) disagree. Ultimately, it would prove to be a victory for conservatism.
Boehner will pay for the removal of 'Tea Party Republicans' from these committees. Wait and see. 2014 is coming, and the Tea Party has it's eyes wide open and has not stopped working to secure Freedom in America for generations to come. That is a worthy goal, and it must be successful. We have to do it for our children and grand-children
Conservatives are NOT "gumming up the works!" We are trying to preserve this country as it was founded. Liberty and Freedom are still worth dying for, in my opinion. I would see no reason to go to war to preserve another socialist state. Freedom, once you have a taste of it, is precious indeed.
This country may yet be headed for another civil war, if that's what it takes to defeat the takeover by these Marxist "Progressives." But personally, I think it can be done through the election of candidates who know what's at stake, and have the backbone to stand against this cancer.
'The Republicans got what they wanted from Wanniski's work. They held power for thirty years, made themselves trillions of dollars, cut organized labor's representation in the workplace from around 25 percent when Reagan came into office to around 8 of the non-governmental workforce today, and left such a massive deficit that some misguided "conservative" Democrats are again clamoring to shoot Santa with working-class tax hikes and entitlement program cuts.'
The House of Representatives is controlled by the Republicans. As such, they hold the purse strings. For that reason, it is the Republicans that hold the cards.
The problem is John Boehner. He has no backbone, and is willing to throw conservatives under the bus. Obama has no mandate for his policies. He won with the narrowest of majorities, and the Republicans easily held the House. Boehner is an "establishment Republican" seeking to "get along" even if it means screwing American citizens, and prolonging the agony of this administrations languishing economy.
The best thing that could happen right now, is for the Republicans to vote "present" and allow us to go over this "cliff." Liberals think that would be a victory for Obama, but I (and many others) disagree. Ultimately, it would prove to be a victory for conservatism.
Boehner will pay for the removal of 'Tea Party Republicans' from these committees. Wait and see. 2014 is coming, and the Tea Party has it's eyes wide open and has not stopped working to secure Freedom in America for generations to come. That is a worthy goal, and it must be successful. We have to do it for our children and grand-children
Conservatives are NOT "gumming up the works!" We are trying to preserve this country as it was founded. Liberty and Freedom are still worth dying for, in my opinion. I would see no reason to go to war to preserve another socialist state. Freedom, once you have a taste of it, is precious indeed.
This country may yet be headed for another civil war, if that's what it takes to defeat the takeover by these Marxist "Progressives." But personally, I think it can be done through the election of candidates who know what's at stake, and have the backbone to stand against this cancer.
Self described liberals only make up 20% or less of the US population, end yet they are such fanatics and busybodies, that they infect everything in government, and in government supported institutions, to an outsized degree.
Conservatives just wish to live their lives in peace, and therefore don't strive to boss everyone around like the libs do. That has been our Achilles' heal, that and we do believe in morals and ethics. We just aren't built to think we should dominate and rule over everyone's lives.Authoritarianism and tyranny are the hallmarks of the left.
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