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Oh jeeze, we know unions are all PERFECT! They do absolutely nothing wrong and have unblemished records of economic success in the world.
I cannot believe I took time to respond to your knee jerk idiotic response.
No Dan. I never argued unions don't have their downsides. All in all, when you add the pros and cons up they are the way to go. As Western Europe shows us.
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Why are you so afraid of letting people choose to join a union or not ?
I thought freedom of choice is what the Dems support ?
The poster obviously has nothing of substance.
They just rant and rave about how difficult workers have it.
But when a union thug threatens violence on someone who does not want to pay dues and join the union padcrasher will have nothing to say.
No Dan. I never argued unions don't have their downsides. All in all, when you had the pro and cons up they are the way to go. As Western Europe shows us.
What a load of bs- Please tell us how Western Europe shows us that?
Maybe US workers do not want to be like Western European workers? Maybe US workers have a better work ethic and care more about their careers.
Unions should not be telling workers what is best for them.
Why are you so afraid of letting people choose to join a union or not ?
I thought freedom of choice is what the Dems support ?
No. Dems are freedom of choice on social issues. Not fiscal policy for which this is related.
If you allow open shops, the company can divide workers by rewarding workers that don't strike, and punishing workers that do strike. Or only promoting workers that refuse to join the union or only promoting workers that actively work against the union.
The unions only ability to gain increases in pay is from the credible threat of a strike. Now the workers will just cross the line to save their jobs, unlike now were they must abide by the decision of the majority of the unions members.
You're really getting into an area you know nothing about.
Like I said this is complex and likely you can't understand this unless I spent hours with you.
No. Dems are freedom of choice on social issues. Not fiscal policy for which this is related.
If you allow open shops, the company can divide workers by rewarding workers that don't strike, and punishing workers that do strike. Or promoting workers that refuse to join the union.
You're really getting into an area you know nothing about.
Like I said this is complex and likely you can't understand this unless I spent hours with you.
Joining a union is NOT fiscal policy. it might be in the government where 89% of union workers are but not for the rest of America.
Face it, private sector unions are dying out and losing power.
That's the changing of society and what THEY want.
You can't always win with your liberal policies of knowing what's best for everyone else and then forcing it on them.
Gee, it's so complex that only liberals understand it. Yeah coming from someone who lives in a right to work state.
No. Dems are freedom of choice on social issues. Not fiscal policy for which this is related.
If you allow open shops, the company can divide workers by rewarding workers that don't strike, and punishing workers that do strike. Or only promoting workers that refuse to join the union or only promoting workers that actively work against the union.
The unions only ability to gain increases in pay is from the credible threat of a strike. Now the workers will just cross the line to save their jobs, unlike now were they must abide by the decision of the majority of the unions members.
You're really getting into an area you know nothing about.
Like I said this is complex and likely you can't understand this unless I spent hours with you.
Yes you know it all!
Please educate us Padcrasher.
Manufacturing industries rise and fall. Has nothing to do with unions.
I get that your corporate backed propaganda tries to blame unions, but you aren't fooling anybody that has minimal knowledge of the issue.
Your sentiment has worked really well for Detroit, no?
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