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Old 12-17-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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Why don't they ever talk about banning violent entertainment? Guess that goes against free speech but we also have the right to bear arms so let's think about banning some free speech when it contains violence.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:56 AM
 
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Best speech of his presidency, imo. It was extremely therapeutic and inspiring, yet it wasn't ''safe''. It was strong, carrying with it a powerful message insinuating that America's gun pathology has gone too far. He wouldn't have gone that strong first term.

I'm increasingly convinced that when it's all said and done, Obama's presidency will be viewed as one of the most transforming experiences in American history. America's understanding of race, guns, war, homosexuality, etc is evolving before our eyes.

Incredible.
I agree. However as much as I admire Obama all he has done so far with gun laws is allow the carrying of firearms on the Amtrack rail system and in national parks. So far I give him a big "F" in terms of reasonable gun laws that might limit the daily carnage taking place in the U.S.

Remember everyone that since the massacre in Newtown there have probably been roughly another 165 deaths in the U.S. from guns since the U.S. averages 85 deaths per day from guns (homicides and suicides).
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:57 AM
 
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Why don't they ever talk about banning violent entertainment? Guess that goes against free speech but we also have the right to bear arms so let's think about banning some free speech when it contains violence.
I think there should be. I think there should be limits on video game violence that shows killing as a game.

I think changes are needed on many levels, actual physical structure changes to schools such as better doors and maybe safe rooms, mental health service changes, gun control, and tackling the glorification of killing, ie. guns.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Watching Obama speak at the memorial service, right now.

It is clear. This has finally been the tipping point.

Better stock up rednecks, because we're coming for the guns.
"we're"?

Who is the "we" in your imaginary confiscation gang?

Please come on over and let the 55M of "us" welcome you to try.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:02 AM
 
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"we're"?

Who is the "we" in your imaginary confiscation gang?

Please come on over and let the 55M of "us" welcome you to try.
Maybe we should send children to get them. Then you can all scare them away with your guns.

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Old 12-17-2012, 01:04 AM
 
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Why don't they ever talk about banning violent entertainment? Guess that goes against free speech but we also have the right to bear arms so let's think about banning some free speech when it contains violence.
Better yet, keep free speech & set a reasonable limit to people's rights to bear arms. Speaking of which, don't think for a moment that America's gun-generous policies don't go into feeding their culture of violence.

Sure, Adam Lanza liked playing shoot-em-up video games.

Adam Lanza also like going to the shooting range with him mom and firing off weapons from her over-the-top gun collection.

Which of those two scenarios does a better job of tragically foretelling the Sandy hook shooting?

Americans love guns primarily because the gun industry is keen on selling lots of them, and because 200 years of marketing tends to have a pretty significant impact on a society's cultural sense. Guns are like a much more insidious version of cigarettes before we knew about the bad stuff.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:05 AM
 
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Here is a gun nut...but was he a "redneck"?

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Old 12-17-2012, 01:06 AM
 
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Maybe we should send children to get them. The you can all scare them away with your guns.
What is your motivation to be so ignorant?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:08 AM
 
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What is your motivation to be so ignorant?
Well, a bunch of little children were just massacred with an assault weapon. People would rather hold onto their right to own assault weapons then ban them, and not have at least this type of massacre occur again.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:17 AM
 
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Well, a bunch of little children were just massacred with an assault weapon. People would rather hold onto their right to own assault weapons then ban them, and not have at least this type of massacre occur again.
Own an "assault weapon" is a freedom, and those who would exchange freedom for safety deserve neither. Big deal, 20 obese little American brats that I will never know got killed with a gun. Would you be happier if they had died from a truck bomb?

I plan on buying an AK-47 if for no better reason than putting this sticker on it and doing my best impersonation of Huey Newton or Big Bill Haywood:




Time to separate the spineless liberals from is real socialists and Social Democrats. Real Progressives support our right to own the tools of revolution, if it ever comes to that.
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