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Old 12-21-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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"-From a man who thought it reasonable to keep and trade slaves and allow only white men who owned land free and clear the right to vote."
Certainly sounds like this is what you are saying.
Sounded like that to me.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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he quotes the part that has been interprated as being an individual right. Not all agree.

I am aware that SCOTUS has recently affirmed the invididual right. Many of us think those cases were wrongly decided (and I think this quote, altogether, provides support to the notion that Madison thought of it largely as a collective right) However what SCOTUS has said is the law - and so neither congress nor the states may ban all guns, or may ban handguns altogether, etc. As per the recent cases. However I do not expect that SCOTUS will overturn any of the forms of gun control that are being discussed seriously now at a national level.
I believe this to be irony. You don't agree with SCOTUS in this case (which is fine), but I'm willing to bet there isn't a conservative out there who would call this decision "activist" like they've called most "left-leaning" decisions over the past eighty years. Roe v. Wade? Activist! Heller v. DC? Doing their Job!
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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Well in the liberal world "real danger of public injury from individuals" means "disarm everyone."

That poster makes a very important point that I don't think they even realize they made. That is, our educational system has failed.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Right, because that's how you want it to be read.

Nice try though.

No because that is how you are trying to read it, just like when your side tries to say militia means the national guard.

And then your side is miffed when we don't give in to your comromises. Why would we, it is clear you use any and every attempt to disarm us.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Well in the liberal world "real danger of public injury from individuals" means "disarm everyone."
No. Just in the paranoid delusions of a far right winger.
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