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yes. And the armed Deputy engaged Harris in a gun fight and called for backup. it would have been far worse without him there. Armed people don't guarantee that something won't happen - it just guarantees you the ability to resist and defend.
"Far worse"? As if only horrible wasn't bad enough? How much worse does it have to be to be 'far worse'? Since when do we measure kid's deaths by the number of the dead?
This comment is loathsome.
Wasn't there an "assault weapons" ban in effect at the time of the Columbine Massacre?
How do lefties who call for a similar law now explain how Harris and Klebold came into posssesion of their weapons with that ban in place?
They were illegal weren't they? Acording to the loony left - all one has to do is ban those weapons and the problem is solved right?
My understanding is that the guns they used were legal under the assault weapons ban--if that's not the case, I know that the guns used in the mass shootings this year all would have been legal. The last assault weapons ban was a complete joke--the manufacturers worked around the regs--it did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. That's why it didn't work. If we're going to have a conversation about restrictions and regs on guns and ammo in this country, we need to make sure this time that they don't have loopholes that an elephant can walk through.
Why is the left putting children's lives in danger by scoffing at any suggestion of providing an armed deterrant to protect the security of the schools?
First, it's not just the left, so just put that out of your mind.
Answer to your question: People who think Wayne LaPierre is a pompous, sanctimonious wind bag who is interested in making a pot full of money for the NRA don't want an ARMED deterrent. Simple.
Soo.... What's his little plan do to stop the next Aurora? Stick an NRA guard in every movie theater in the country? Of course he'd LOVE that. More money for the NRA and his million a year $alary goes up. Dude probably laughs all the way to the gold vault that working stiffs send him their hard-earned money. You make a million a year?
They stayed outside during the VA Tech shooting as well.
I read somewhere that is SOP.
Real life is not like the movies.
How many times have we heard or read about stand-offs that lasted for hours and hours?
Easy for people to say they should've or could've, but full-on firefights don't seem to a preferred plan of action for the experts.
Since Columbine, they have changed how they handle this. They no longer are going to just sit outside while gunman just roam around killing people. In Columbine, the cops stayed outside while listening to the gunfire inside. Had they entered the building much sooner, lives would've been saved. They didn't go inside until well after the two shooters killed themselves
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"Far worse"? As if only horrible wasn't bad enough? How much worse does it have to be to be 'far worse'? Since when do we measure kid's deaths by the number of the dead?
This comment is loathsome.
Don't be such a drama queen banjo. The fact that 13 kids died is horrible - no doubt. But the fact that an armed deputy engaged Harris (thus, not allowing Harris to shoot at other students) stopped him from raising the body count. Hindsight being 20/20 - another armed deputy engaging the other shooter could have stopped that killer too. That is all I am saying. To say that the armed Deputy couldn't stop the Columbine massacre is only a half truth. He DID stop one of them. Those kids who survived because of that (no one can know who they would be) are thankful.
All I'm seeing here are keyboard warriors questioning the Sheriff's deputy's ability, and stating how it coulda/woulda/shoulda been done. Do people not understand that in situations like this there is chaos and the unknown. Why would any other spree shooting situation be different from the chaos of Columbine with a seasoned cop on the scene? People are suggesting a teacher with basic training would be able to serve as any type of protection or deterrent when a seasoned cop explains in minute detail just how difficult and complex the situation is?
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Had they entered the building much sooner, lives would've been saved. They didn't go inside until well after the two shooters killed themselves
Harris was standing in the entrance to the cafeteria, so your point is moot.
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To say that the armed Deputy couldn't stop the Columbine massacre is only a half truth. He DID stop one of them. Those kids who survived because of that (no one can know who they would be) are thankful.
Not factually correct. He engaged Harris, but Harris subsequently ran off and continued the shooting spree.
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"Not factually correct.He engaged Harris, but Harris subsequently ran off and continued the shooting spree."
He did, but (from what is seen on video and other student accounts) he was not able to kill anyone else (although he shot his weapon). That armed deputy made a difference and that is the point. With a policy of armed guards at schools (just like in court houses) people thinking of doing such things would be reduced. Along with other gun control policies in place (mandatory checks - including mental health and gun safes/trigger locks that must also be mandatory to own a weapon), it would go a long way in helping prevent these things. Mind you - someone who is going to illegally obtain a weapon and hell-bent on shoot up a school, will still have a chance to do so - but these measures can certainly stop those who are looking for an easy/soft target and those who are mentally ill with no idea how to get a gun (legally or stealing someone's gun). Just like the armed security our President has - it doesn't guarantee his safety - but it gives the good guys the ability/opportunity to defend and protect.
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