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Old 12-24-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the Covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment… laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind… as that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, institutions must advance also, to keep pace with the times… We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain forever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
-- Thomas Jefferson, on reform of the Virginia Constitution
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Houston
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That is why we have a process called amendments. Jefferson was a great supporter of gun rights.

"On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed".---Tommy J.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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although he doesn't mention guns specifically, given the rest of Jeffersons works, I highly doubt he'd be for emboldening the federal government further with restrictions on private gun ownership.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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For more than two hundred years, the American people have been free to amend the COnstitution and change or eliminate anything they want in it. Including the 2nd amendment.

For every one of those 200+ years, despite all the available opportunities, the American people have chosen to leave the 2nd amendment in place.

Just as Jefferson continually recommended.

Did somebody mention a "punch in the face"?
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Major thread fail.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Houston
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria, as quoted by Thomas Jefferson's Commonplace book
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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That is why we have a process called amendments. Jefferson was a great supporter of gun rights. [/font][/font]
I don't think he was well acquainted with semi-automatic and automatic weapons. He was a one-gun man in a one-gun era (except for Wyatt Earp who could shoot a gun from each hand).
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't think he was well acquainted with semi-automatic and automatic weapons. He was a one-gun man in a one-gun era (except for Wyatt Earp who could shoot a gun from each hand).
Not to mention, the idea of "standing army" and police.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I don't think he was well acquainted with semi-automatic and automatic weapons. He was a one-gun man in a one-gun era (except for Wyatt Earp who could shoot a gun from each hand).
He was a strong supporter of the common man being able to defend himself from government tyranny. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is not to protect hunting or target shooting.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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I don't think he was well acquainted with semi-automatic and automatic weapons. He was a one-gun man in a one-gun era (except for Wyatt Earp who could shoot a gun from each hand).
Ever hear of a duck's foot pistol? Not automatic, but some had a dozen or more barrels and could take out that many at once.
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