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View Poll Results: Does abortion end a human life?
Yes 96 61.15%
No 61 38.85%
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by DewDropInn View Post
Out of curiosity I checked Robin Rossi's older posts. She/he called food stamp users "parasites" on one of the food stamp threads.

He/she may claim to to be "pro-life" but the use of the word "parasite" speaks volumes. Really? Parasites? When kids may be fed because of that help?

Unbelievable. Another person claiming to be "pro-life" bites the dust. So much for the "pro-life" claim that they care about kids after they're born. It sure doesn't look like this one does. How tremendously sad. Someone who has no regard for kids who are already here. Not even worth listening to IMO.
Darnit. Outed Again!!!!!

Sorry, no connection between welfare parasites sucking the blood from their neighbors, and the rights of the innocent NOT to be slaughtered.

Do you think anyone believes that you want to abort your child because you can't feed it? You flatter yourself, if you do.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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A heartbeat doesn't make much sense, seeing as it's controlled purely by electrical impulses. Brain function would make more sense.

Talk about opening the door to infanticide!

Which brain functions would make a fetus a non-person one day and a person the next?

Will developmentally disabled children be denied personhood their entire lives?

We traveled down this road when it was called T-4.


Only one biological event occurs that changes what is not a unique living organism into a unique living organism and that is conception.

Left ununited, both egg and sperm have an extremely short and limited future that will become nothing no matter how long we wait.

Joined together, they begin a biological process that will likely continue for the next seventy years, or more.

Before conception, the egg has the biological make-up of the mother and the sperm has that of the father.

After conception, and immediately following conception, the new living entity has its own genetic identity that is neither the father's nor the mother's.

The moment of conception is when both the natural human life cycle and biological uniqueness begin.

This is when human life begins.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:30 PM
 
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Does getting your period end a potential human life?
Same same.


No.
You know better.
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:59 AM
 
Location: California
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Talk about opening the door to infanticide!

Which brain functions would make a fetus a non-person one day and a person the next?

Will developmentally disabled children be denied personhood their entire lives?

We traveled down this road when it was called T-4.


Only one biological event occurs that changes what is not a unique living organism into a unique living organism and that is conception.

Left ununited, both egg and sperm have an extremely short and limited future that will become nothing no matter how long we wait.

Joined together, they begin a biological process that will likely continue for the next seventy years, or more.

Before conception, the egg has the biological make-up of the mother and the sperm has that of the father.

After conception, and immediately following conception, the new living entity has its own genetic identity that is neither the father's nor the mother's.

The moment of conception is when both the natural human life cycle and biological uniqueness begin.

This is when human life begins.
Brain function..as in a functioning brain. Some brains function differntly but function it must.

I'm not sure what door you think is opening or what infanticide has to do with it. We do "pull the plug" so to speak on people of all ages when the brain stops functioning. Usually they will die on their own without us hooking them up to machines and whatnot. Our bodies and our "personhood" are dependent on brain function. Without a brain we are nothing but a shell.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:43 AM
 
Location: :~)
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Abortion provides a way out for those being haphazardly in the bedroom. Does that individual learn a lesson or continue their ways?
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Darnit. Outed Again!!!!!

Sorry, no connection between welfare parasites sucking the blood from their neighbors, and the rights of the innocent NOT to be slaughtered.

Do you think anyone believes that you want to abort your child because you can't feed it? You flatter yourself, if you do.
And you are all for the right of children to starve if they happen to be born to a parent who can't afford to feed them.

Yea.....we get it. You have all kinds of concern/compassion for a fetus, but as soon as it is born......not your problem.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I suppose you're trying to get lifers to mention god, but there's a simple answer to your question. Rarely does any person [a 'who'] cause a miscarriage. In every case the woman causes the abortion.

I suppose the "human life begins at conception" folks don't want to consider who is aborting approximately half of all pregnancies.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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what I mean by forced is, without choice, which results in women giving birth who would otherwise not.
I do agree that there should be limits and cut off points. which we do have. I support them. I don't think you would find many pro choice people who would advocate for the ability to abort a healthy baby at 8 months along. I do not.
It comes down to you are pro-choice Up To A Point, then you support the government restricting choice. That's no different than so-called pro-lifers who make exceptions for rape and incest.

If medical technology advances to where 'viability' is at 15 or 18 weeks, would you then support restricting complete choice at 15 or 18 weeks ?
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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I suppose the "human life begins at conception" folks don't want to consider who is aborting approximately half of all pregnancies.
You make a dopey assumption that all pro-lifers base their position on a god. There are basic nongodly biological and genetic reasons why someone can believe life begins at conception.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Brain function..as in a functioning brain. Some brains function differntly but function it must.

I'm not sure what door you think is opening or what infanticide has to do with it. We do "pull the plug" so to speak on people of all ages when the brain stops functioning. Usually they will die on their own without us hooking them up to machines and whatnot. Our bodies and our "personhood" are dependent on brain function. Without a brain we are nothing but a shell.

Your feet must be awful sore after all that tap-dancing.

OK, now define "FUNCTIONING BRAIN" such that one individual is a person and another is not.
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