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View Poll Results: Is this appointment a conflict of interest?
Yes, this is a conflict of interest and she should not be appointed 28 71.79%
no, not a conflict of interest and we should embrace this person as head of Family Planning 10 25.64%
don't know 1 2.56%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-17-2007, 10:55 AM
 
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Is this not a conflict of interest? If someone sincerely wants to curb abortions in this country, then why take away the access to contraception?

"We're quite pleased, because fertility is not a disease."

This news makes me want to barf. I'd like to hear from anyone with an opinion on this, whether you think this is an appropriate appointment.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:38 PM
 
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So typical of this Administration to appoint someone to a department they basically oppose. This is just like how John Bolton "I hate the U.N." got appointed to the U.N. Drug company executives run the FDA. Oil company executives forge our energy policy (still a state secret). Lumberjacks run the Forest Service. Caucasians run the Race Relations advisory committee. Torturers run the Justice Department. OK, some of this I made up, but you get the drift. I'm sure just like Michael Brown, she'll do a 'fine job'.

If I were President, I'd appoint people who's career history supports their office's goals. Environmentalists would run the EPA. Naturopaths would run the FDA. Truck drivers and airline pilots would run the Transportation Department. But, what to do with the ATF, appoint drunk gun-toting smokers? Help! Seriously, what this government has done and is continuing to do is astounding. Where is our outrage?
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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I was so upset by this news, I forgot to respond.

Typical, but not unusual for a standing president to appoint folks that mimic his/(perhaps her) POV.

In the health care arena, President Bush lost us many gains. And this area appears to be one that he has someone succeeded to steadily, but incrementally destroy: sex education; family planning; HIV & STI prevention; adolescent health...the list is endless and I don't want to forget stem cell research.

Only one other recent president was as negligent as GWB, and that was RR; both failed to promote good health care practices.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:17 PM
 
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The article didn't make it clear, is she against birth control or just the tax payers paying for it?

I don't especially care for my taxes paying for it either.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I saw this in depth article over at think progress. Another case of the fox guarding the henhouse. There's a link connected to the article wherein you can voice your protest. The day after bush took office he reinstated the Mexico City Policy. I remember being so enraged. How can contraception be considered a "culture of death" if there's no conception? Here's a few clips:

Think Progress » Bush Family Planning Appointee Called Contraceptives Part Of The ‘Culture Of Death’

...Orr, who is currently directing HHS child welfare programs, was touted by the administration as “highly qualified.â€

.... served as senior director for marriage and family care at the conservative Family Research Council and was an adjunct professor at Pat Robertson’s Regent University – In a 2001, Orr embraced a Bush administration proposal to “stop requiring all health insurance plans for federal employees†to cover a broad range of birth control. “We’re quite pleased, because fertility is not a disease,†said Orr.

– At the 2001 Conservative Political Action Conference, Orr cheered Bush’s endorsement of Reagan’s “Mexico City Policy,†which required NGOs receiving federal funds to “neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations.†Orr said that it was proof Bush was pro-life “in his heart.â€

– In a 2000 Weekly Standard article, Orr railed against requiring health insurance plans to cover contraceptives. “It’s not about choice,†said Orr. “It’s not about health care. It’s about making everyone collaborators with the culture of death.â€

– Orr authored a paper in 2000 titled, “Real Women Stay Married.†In it she wrote that women should “think about focusing our eyes, not upon ourselves, but upon the families we form through marriage.â€

A the office of family planning carries tremendous importance. Orr will “oversee HHS’s $283 million reproductive-health program, a $30 million program that encourages abstinence among teenagers, and HHS’s Office of Population Affairs, which funds birth control, pregnancy tests, counseling, and screenings for sexually transmitted diseases and HIV.â€

Last year, President Bush appointed Eric Keroack to oversee the office. Keroack had previously worked for a Christian pregnancy counseling group that opposes contraception. He stepped down in March over ethical problems.

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Henry Waxman's statement:
This appointment is absurd. Dr. Orr’s support of unproven abstinence-only programs would in itself raise flags about her commitment to comprehensive family planning for low-income girls and women. But in 2000, Dr. Orr said that requiring insurers to cover family planning supplies and services — a policy that promotes access to contraception in many states and the federal employee health program — is “about making everyone collaborators with the culture of death.†This leaves little doubt about where she has stood on contraception access. […]

...— ideology firmly holds the reins over reproductive health in this White House. But this lack of commitment to comprehensive reproductive health, combined with cramped budgets, is an insult and a disservice to the millions of low-income people who rely on Title X for family planning and preventive health services.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:22 PM
 
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This is no more a conflict of interest then Bush appointing a gay man as the head of the US federal AIDS program.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:29 PM
 
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....something like having a guy who never performed active duty military service end up in the position of Commander-in-Chief......
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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It appears others have an opposing view of how birth control should be used, and among those are the WHO, and the Guttmacher Institute:

World Health Organization undermines conservative talking points - The Carpetbagger Report

Continued interference with the use of contraceptives from religious quarters will undermine the work of reducing pregnancies, increase abortions, escalate STIs and exacerbate poverty. All of these and other social ills are linked. Putting someone in a position of power to unseat sound health care policy is criminal.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:04 AM
 
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Thanks for more information. She certainly doesn't seem to have the mind set for this particular agency. Maybe she won't do too much damage for the rest of his term.

Is her appointment one of those that has to be approved by Congress?
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:31 AM
 
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This is no more a conflict of interest then Bush appointing a gay man as the head of the US federal AIDS program.
Why so? Because the gay man is against AIDS treatment and prevention programs?

Sorry, but that's a cheap and poor analogy.


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The article didn't make it clear, is she against birth control or just the tax payers paying for it?

I don't especially care for my taxes paying for it either.
I do. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Literally, in this case. How much does a condom cost? Now, how much does it cost the taxpayer to support a baby and child through birth, schooling, etc.? Compounded by the fact that the type of people who would need or receive "government funded birth control" would typically be the poor... and when THEY have babies, it's even MORE of a tax burden!
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