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Old 01-06-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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Why must people submit to governments?
Why must people submit to any organization, public or private? Please tell me you're not one of those folks who operates under the delusion that you aren't subjugated by private organizations, as well?

As long as we're delving into utopias, how about a society without hierarchies of any sort?
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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Why must people submit to any organization, public or private? Please tell me you're not one of those folks who operates under the delusion that you aren't subjugated by private organizations, as well?

As long as we're delving into utopias, how about a society without hierarchies of any sort?
Actually it sounds like my daughter when she was 14 or 15 and rhetorically asked me why school wasn't a democracy where students had as much say as teachers. I say rhetorically because she knew damned well what my view on the subject would be. It is a juvenile position, a case where a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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Actually it sounds like my daughter when she was 14 or 15 and rhetorically asked me why school wasn't a democracy where students had as much say as teachers. I say rhetorically because she knew damned well what my view on the subject would be. It is a juvenile position, a case where a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Yep, thumb-sucking crybabies: "You can't tell me what to do!!!"

If just once they complained of all the other hierarchies that control our lives, outside of the government, I might take them a bit more seriously and not classify them as whiny children.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Seriously?!?!

Move to Somalia and then come back and tell us your views on the need for the absence of government.
The early colonies of Rhode Island and Pennsylvania, and perhaps the Vermont frontier before the Revolution to a degree, were in a state of "anarchy" at times. Things did not turn into Somalia. Somalia is how it is because of the culture of the Somalians. The Alaskan natives lived in a state of "anarchy" before Europeans arrived, and things were generally quite peaceful.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Why must people submit to any organization, public or private? Please tell me you're not one of those folks who operates under the delusion that you aren't subjugated by private organizations, as well?

As long as we're delving into utopias, how about a society without hierarchies of any sort?
My opinions of corporations, money, etc., can be found elsewhere in the forum. I don't support them either much.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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“You’re not God,†she said to Corley, protesting her husband’s arrest and questioning Corley’s authority.
Well, she has that right.

Why am I bound to a set of rules I didn't agree to?
Basically, I only follow the law because not doing so gives me problems I do not want or need.
I understand the sentiment though.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What makes state citizens so special that they are like kings above the law?
What makes the judge who held the man in "contempt" so special that he is like a king above the law?

Why didn't the man receive due process before being sentenced to jail?

Do you oppose the Fifth Amendment?
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The guy was a nutjob, he is lucky to only get 30 days in jail. Maybe that will give him some good thinking time.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The guy was a nutjob, he is lucky to only get 30 days in jail. Maybe that will give him some good thinking time.
"Judge" Phillip Corley is the one who should be in jail.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why must people submit to governments?
To prevent the alternative which is a bloodbath.
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