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Old 01-09-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Why is that? If the product is the same price, why would you prefer to buy products made by workers who have no bargaining power?

I would rather buy union-made products where I can be assured that the workers and management, have mutually agreed on wages and benefits. Intentionally buying goods from companies where the workers have lower rights makes no sense to me.

Have a little respect for unions. They are why most Americans work 5 days a week and have weekends off.

Moreover, WalMart pays its employees so low that a large percentage are eligible for Food Stamps and Medicaid. Why do you feel a need to support the billionaire owners over workers?
So the majority of Americans who work in non-union jobs have lower rights? THAT makes no sense to ME.

I have a hard time respecting thugs that resort to extortion and violence to keep their wages and benefits at inflated levels, and who don't believe in keeping the best workers and getting rid of the worst. I prefer to reward companies who hire folks that have a work ethic, not a sense of entitlement.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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18% of Costco's workforce is unionized. And the union contracts serve as a template for wage and benefit policies company-wide.

The Costco Challenge: An Alternative to Wal-Martization?

But don't worry, there's still Sam's Club, if it's really that important for you to patronize a warehouse chain that refuses to treat its employees decently.
So non-union employees don't treat their employees decently? Such ignorance of the real world.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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Um, the right does that also. For example, the original post/er in this thread, who goes out of his way to buy non-union goods.
Please see my first post. I am of the right. I clearly stated they are wrong for doing this.


and yes the right does it. that is no excuse for the left turning it into an artform.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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I could care less. We own a business and purchase material based on quality and price. Unfortunately I believe there are a lot of non-union companies that have quality materials at a lower price.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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Default Do you seek out non-unionized companies to do business with?

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Are you aware of which companies are non-unionized, seek them out, and try to do business exclusively with them?

I know I do my best to patronize only non-unionized companies like Costco, Fresh & Easy, and Walmart. I will never buy an auto where UAW works there. I prefer only to buy American made non-unionized cars like Toyota built in the South.
I'm retired now, so I no longer have to make such decisions. Before I retired I refused to do any work for any union shop or anyone who worked for a union shop, or any government entity. It was apparent while on a job installing a security system in a home or business, if union employees were on the job. They were always the one's setting waiting for the clock to strike the hour so they could walk out the door, or go to lunch. They were the ones who did a mediocre job on everything they touched, or complained to the other workers to slow down because you made them look bad. My son now owns the company I owned, he has found the same thing. If he goes to a public school to work he has to pay prevailing wage, even to himself. This makes the overall cost of that public building much more expensive. So he too turns down jobs for the government or union owned shops. In the twenties, shop owners and businesses had to pay protection money to gangsters like Al Capone, today that same protection money is paid to a union so you can work at a job.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Why is that? If the product is the same price, why would you prefer to buy products made by workers who have no bargaining power?

I would rather buy union-made products where I can be assured that the workers and management, have mutually agreed on wages and benefits. Intentionally buying goods from companies where the workers have lower rights makes no sense to me.

Have a little respect for unions. They are why most Americans work 5 days a week and have weekends off.

Moreover, WalMart pays its employees so low that a large percentage are eligible for Food Stamps and Medicaid. Why do you feel a need to support the billionaire owners over workers?
That's just it--people gripe about union wages, but when most of the employees at places like Walmart are paid so low that they're eligible for foodstamps and Medicaid, we wind up paying for part of their "wages" through our tax dollars, vs. Walmart actually paying them a living wage out of their profits. I can't see how any conservative wouldn't rather have those employees paid through the market vs. bigger and bigger government--it's stupid--but that's today's republican party. Zero common sense.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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I wonder how many of those Wal-Mart employees you are supporting via welfare. Personally, I'd rather they unionize so the Wal-Mart bore that cost, not taxpayers.
The problem you have understanding is the same problem some of these other people have, they/you are so near sighted you can't see clearly. If Walmart paid employees more money it would still be you paying for the increased wages with an increase in the cost of goods sold by Walmart. Darn, I know that 2+2 is hard for you to figure out, you need to think about it before you spout off...
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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Do you seek out non-unionized companies to do business with?

Sometimes. FedEx just delivered 2 packages. When given the choice, I aways choose FedEx over UPS, for that reason and none other.

I'll always go with NON union if I have the choice.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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I go to companies that offer the best product at the best price.

Try it sometime.
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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The problem you have understanding is the same problem some of these other people have, they/you are so near sighted you can't see clearly. If Walmart paid employees more money it would still be you paying for the increased wages with an increase in the cost of goods sold by Walmart. Darn, I know that 2+2 is hard for you to figure out, you need to think about it before you spout off...
In 2011, Walmart turned a 15 billion dollar profit. The same year, their employees collected 2.2 billion dollars in welfare - that's 420K per store. About 80% of Walmart employees are on food stamps (the CEO of Walmart makes more money per hour than the average Walmart employee makes per year).

I'd rather the 2.2 billion come out of Walmart's 15 billion in profits, not government coffers or an increase in the cost of goods sold at Walmart. That's how I'd like to see add 2 and 2 added.
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