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It's seems like people in this country have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs. These programs were created at a time when many in America were struggling to get by, however many people claim that these same programs that were established to help Americans might be causing them more harm than good. For instance, terms such as welfare queen, ghetto people, reverse racism, and believing people are using the system for their own personal gain are always brought up when these programs are mentioned. Do you think that the media unfairly portrays people on these programs as moochers? Please feel free to share your views on the subject.
People have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs because they are not the responsibility of the federal government.
Those powers you mentioned belong with the States, not the federal government. The federal government is suppose to be limited to only those powers granted them by the US Constitution, and nothing more.
Yes corporate welfare is an issue. Individual welfare destroys lives from the inside. It's personal, and destroys human beings, and families directly. It isn't just welfare but all the programs there are to open to abuse, including SSI, food stamps, many more that exist in some of the biggest socialist states like CA and MA. They can live off these for many years. So many lives ruined because of these programs designed to help. It pushes weak people into the ghetto where they meet crime and nasty people and lifestyles. It turns them into greedy takers, just like those wealthy 1% white collar criminals.
Welfare can ruin lives, only if you let it. If you let welfare become a lifestyle, then it ruins you. Certain policies, such as not letting the father be in the home, is what I'm concerned about.
And how do we know some people weren't greedy to begin with? You have plenty of greedy takers ruining other people's lives.
Welfare can ruin lives, only if you let it. If you let welfare become a lifestyle, then it ruins you. Certain policies, such as not letting the father be in the home, is what I'm concerned about.
And how do we know some people weren't greedy to begin with? You have plenty of greedy takers ruining other people's lives.
But the government acts as enabler to this greed and forces taxpayers who don't even know these people to become enablers and unwilling victims. Some greedy people out there try to get money from individuals and at least a person has a chance to say no to them. Here we are forced by the government to support the scammers and not supposed to even acknowledge or complain about it but to feel good about it.
It's seems like people in this country have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs. These programs were created at a time when many in America were struggling to get by, however many people claim that these same programs that were established to help Americans might be causing them more harm than good. For instance, terms such as welfare queen, ghetto people, reverse racism, and believing people are using the system for their own personal gain are always brought up when these programs are mentioned. Do you think that the media unfairly portrays people on these programs as moochers? Please feel free to share your views on the subject.
I hate carry the load for anyone not putting their feet under my table! I was killed in a MC vs. Car head on wreck, recessitated twice on the table, massive internal injuries. type 3 open book pelvis fracture, fib, tib, tibial plateau and commuted fracture on the right leg 6 cm sacral displacement (internally fixated) this crushed the L4 -S3 nerves on the left side....70% of people injured that bad die 50% of those that live don't walk again....I spent 2 yrs on SSDI now I make 6 figures. If I can do that with no college education anybody can...
It's seems like people in this country have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs. These programs were created at a time when many in America were struggling to get by, however many people claim that these same programs that were established to help Americans might be causing them more harm than good. For instance, terms such as welfare queen, ghetto people, reverse racism, and believing people are using the system for their own personal gain are always brought up when these programs are mentioned. Do you think that the media unfairly portrays people on these programs as moochers? Please feel free to share your views on the subject.
I have no problem when welfare does what it is supposed to, which is help those poor through no fault of their own. However, many times I have seen people who could work choose not to or have babies they know they can't afford. Unemployment is different because it is paid to people who lost their job through no fault of their own and it is a limited time (and they still pay taxes). Affirmative action in theory is good but having lost a job because of it I see what it does often is hire someone less qualified because they come from a ethnicity that traditionally was discriminated against. Amnesty for illegals is rewarding them for a criminal act they committed.
I hate carry the load for anyone not putting their feet under my table! I was killed in a MC vs. Car head on wreck, recessitated twice on the table, massive internal injuries. type 3 open book pelvis fracture, fib, tib, tibial plateau and commuted fracture on the right leg 6 cm sacral displacement (internally fixated) this crushed the L4 -S3 nerves on the left side....70% of people injured that bad die 50% of those that live don't walk again....I spent 2 yrs on SSDI now I make 6 figures. If I can do that with no college education anybody can...
"Whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can't, you are right"
Henry Ford
Some people are raised and taught that they can't. The parent(s) are making sure that their kids can't (remain poor or train them to be lazy) by convincing them that they can't. What a sad thing to do to your kids.... making sure that they stay poor and dependent on the government.
But the government acts as enabler to this greed and forces taxpayers who don't even know these people to become enablers and unwilling victims.
Yea, nothing like working hard to get an education, being in debt up to my butt in school loan debt. Nothing like going to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week being tired from a long days work.
Nothing like being away from my kids while they are growing up, missing birthdays, holidays and weekends. Nothing like saying no to my kids because I can't afford it.
Nothing like the government taking money I worked hard for and to give to people who think that they are owed, people who are lazy.
And you ask why people don't like welfare? Why should I pay your way when I struggle to pay my own way?
You pushed me too hard for more free stuff and I say take more away from lazy capable welfare money grubbing low lifes. I have no sympathy for welfare abusers.
I have no problem when welfare does what it is supposed to, which is help those poor through no fault of their own. However, many times I have seen people who could work choose not to or have babies they know they can't afford. Unemployment is different because it is paid to people who lost their job through no fault of their own and it is a limited time (and they still pay taxes). Affirmative action in theory is good but having lost a job because of it I see what it does often is hire someone less qualified because they come from a ethnicity that traditionally was discriminated against. Amnesty for illegals is rewarding them for a criminal act they committed.
Agree with you on all counts. It is ashamed that Obama is making it worse.
It's seems like people in this country have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs. These programs were created at a time when many in America were struggling to get by, however many people claim that these same programs that were established to help Americans might be causing them more harm than good. For instance, terms such as welfare queen, ghetto people, reverse racism, and believing people are using the system for their own personal gain are always brought up when these programs are mentioned. Do you think that the media unfairly portrays people on these programs as moochers? Please feel free to share your views on the subject.
Whenever you have a government giving out trillions of dollars, those programs will be fraught with waste, fraud and theft. So yes, there are lots of moochers and thieves.
We should end all government welfare; both individual and corporate.
It's seems like people in this country have a very strong dislike for programs such as welfare, section 8, unemployment security, food stamps, affirmative action, amnesty for illegals and other similar programs.
Rightly so. They are not enumerated powers granted to the federal government in the constitution and thus according to the 10th amendment the government shouldn't be doing them.
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These programs were created at a time when many in America were struggling to get by, however many people claim that these same programs that were established to help Americans might be causing them more harm than good.
No, they weren't.
When the "War on Poverty" was started, poverty was trending down. The War was started to accelerate the decline, not to deal with any existential crisis, and LBJ said as much in speeches. The result of the War was that poverty reversed direction and went up.
But Democrats were collecting a whole lot of votes from the War so they continued it. And now liberals are so emotionally invested in it, that they refuse to see reality. They will put in a program, see it fail, and say it's the Republicans' fault. Our program was great, those conservatives just messed it up. This is how it became "Bush's wars" that wrecked the economy and it had nothing to do with massive defaults on subprime mortgages that Democrats pushed banks into doing. Of course while Bush's massive spending on wars somehow wrecked the economy, their solution to that was Obama's massive stimulus spending. And when that didn't work and got our credit rating reduced, it was the Tea Party's fault.
Of course, when the Republicans did get a chance to mess with one of these programs and reformed welfare during the Clinton administration, removing the incentives for remaining on welfare rather than working, then welfare went down but poverty did not. People actually got jobs. Turns out able bodied people actually were collecting benefits instead of working. What a shock.
Then Obama got elected and repealed the reforms. Legislatively enacted reforms. With an executive order. But Obama doesn't abuse his office, just ask any liberal and they'll tell you.
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For instance, terms such as welfare queen, ghetto people, reverse racism, and believing people are using the system for their own personal gain are always brought up when these programs are mentioned. Do you think that the media unfairly portrays people on these programs as moochers? Please feel free to share your views on the subject.
I don't see the media portray them one way or the other. You get occasional stories involving some welfare receiving person doing stupid that fits into the stereotype. You also get occasional stories involving some welfare receiving person doing something impressive or heroic. I think the views of welfare recipients are based on political leanings and not on media slant.
Personally, I believe both stereotypes are true. Not everyone on welfare is a moocher. And moochers are on welfare.
As a conservative, the problem I have with other conservatives is that they simply want to cut funding or eliminate the system. You can't do that. Despite what I said earlier about it being unconstitutional, the fact is there are a heck of a lot of people relying on it. Children will literally starve if you do that. The private sector safety net does not exist anymore. The things conservatives assume poor people will go back to relying on if you cut government programs simply aren't there anymore. When government took over the safety net, those people packed up shop and went home. You need to reform the system, not simply trash it.
As a conservative, the problem I have with liberals is first that they want to point to the most deserving people and use them as an excuse to ignore the very real problems. Second, that they substitute good intentions with good results. Just because something seems good, doesn't mean it is good. Third, they steadfastly refuse to admit the corruption on their own side. Democrat politicians do have an incentive to use social programs as a way of buying votes, but the rank and file Democrats absolutely refuse to believe that. Only Republicans and corporations are corrupt. Everything a Democrat politician does is for the good of society. Somehow the concept of how handing someone a check to buy food rather than helping them get a job to earn food makes that person dependent on voting for you just doesn't register with liberals.
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