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Old 01-11-2013, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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For the crowd who think welfare recipients (and even Gov't workers) should pass drug tests to qualify to get the benefits.

Additionally, like in Top-Secret clearances, gun buyers should have to pass financial assessments too right? No one is more vulnerable to bad influences than someone in the red, past due on debt... security analysts know this well.

Last edited by Back to NE; 01-11-2013 at 07:43 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default Backgtound checks?

I would only allow searches for records of violent felonies and serious mental illness. No testing for drugs or political opinion. Once the search was completed the results should be erased. There should be no record of who was checked or if the they purchased or have any guns.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: WY
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For the crowd who think welfare recipients (and even Gov't workers) should pass drug tests to qualify to get the benefits.

Additionally, like in Top-Secret clearances, gun buyers should have to pass financial assessments too right? No one is more vulnerable to bad influences than someone in the red, past due on debt... security analysts know this well.
1. Government workers have to have a drug test before being hired and drug tests again in the event of an OJT accident. Many other types of jobs have to be drug tested already.

2. Welfare recipients should be drug tested.

3. I know many people who are struggling financially every day. They lose sleep trying to figure out how to pay their bills because there is not enough money left at the end of the month. They don't lose sleep trying to figure out how to shoot up a place.

4. None of the young men who have been doing the shooting are doing it because they can't pay their bills.

5. You're a shill, troll, instigator. Dumb thread.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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For the crowd who think welfare recipients (and even Gov't workers) should pass drug tests to qualify to get the benefits.

Additionally, like in Top-Secret clearances, gun buyers should have to pass financial assessments too right? No one is more vulnerable to bad influences than someone in the red, past due on debt... security analysts know this well.
Can we start drug testing the media to clear them for their 1st amendment rights?
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: In a cave
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For the crowd who think welfare recipients (and even Gov't workers) should pass drug tests to qualify to get the benefits.

Additionally, like in Top-Secret clearances, gun buyers should have to pass financial assessments too right? No one is more vulnerable to bad influences than someone in the red, past due on debt... security analysts know this well.
Wow this guy is about is out of touch as you can get. Yes, for the right to steal money from other people, those who get unearned benefits from working people should have to play by the rules of those giving the money to them. If they want to drug test them to weed out using tax money on drugs then its valid.

Top-Secret clearances are in the military domain which has a whole world of its own laws and rules. Speaking of Julian Assange, did he get the TS info by paying off the debt of the young man who leaked the information? I didn't think so.

Why would you drug test someone to buy a gun? Should I drug test you when you buy a car or a hamburger? It is literally a stupid idea from a stupid person with zero common sense.

Who raised you? Joseph Stalin?
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Considering that drug tests for welfare recipients is supposedly some violation of their rights. I'm not seeing how they could institute such a program for gun purchases but in these whacky days anything is possible I guess.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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Default Already is

Unless you consider lying on a Federal document with punishment of a felony......NOT???


Question....9E


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Old 01-11-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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5. You're a shill, troll, instigator. Dumb thread.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Why would you drug test someone to buy a gun? Should I drug test you when you buy a car or a hamburger? It is literally a stupid idea from a stupid person with zero common sense.
Because you can't kill someone with a hamburger LOL. Background checks for gun ownership are to prevent risky people from getting them. The NRA wants mentally ill people excluded because they are risky. You can't say (and you can't admit) that people up financial $hits creek aren't more at risk statistically than people paid up.

I personally don't think pot smokers are riskier, but for hard drugs, absolutely.

BTW, item 9E on that form doesn't indicate drug testing. Almost every employer makes you sign their drug-free policy. Being tested is a different matter.

BTW2, only about one 3rd of Gov't jobs require drug testing.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Because you can't kill someone with a hamburger LOL. Background checks for gun ownership are to prevent risky people from getting them. The NRA wants mentally ill people excluded because they are risky. You can't say (and you can't admit) that people up financial $hits creek aren't more at risk statistically than people paid up.

I personally don't think pot smokers are riskier, but for hard drugs, absolutely.

BTW, item 9E on that form doesn't indicate drug testing. Almost every employer makes you sign their drug-free policy. Being tested is a different matter.

BTW2, only about one 3rd of Gov't jobs require drug testing.
Someone could stuff the hamburger in your mouth and hold your nose shut with my fingers, could run over you with a car, could stab you with a knife. Do those items all need a drug test with them? How about rope and baseball bats?

You sound like a teenage pot smoker that just ripped the bong. I can't waste my time more than I already have on someone with the 1/4th my IQ.
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