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Secession is Treason and secessionist are Traitors. One they have renounced their citizenship those of us who have remained loyal to America get to vote on what to do about it
What's more patriotic than ignoring a tyrants orders? Pretty damn patriotic if you ask me.I was never loyal to this country,I never will be. I pledge loyalty to my family and people first,my nation second and my nation is not the USA...so whatever.
And if they are loyal to the constitution of The United States of America...?? How will they continue that allegiance as citizens of a new country, with a new constitution?
To the NEW country - isn't that self-evident?? OMG
Because they are Patriots and loyal to the Liberties and Responsibilities intrinsic to our Constitutionally based Democratic Republic. If you weren't dumbed down by the pseudo intellectualism of our schools poisoned by leftest propaganda you would know this.
As it is you buy into the traitorous bastard steering our country towards a transitional socialism subject to the U.N. rather than the Sovereign Nation we are loyal too.
Pull your head of out of hannity's butt and turn off info wars. You and poeple who think like you are not patriots your future militia men and homegrown terrorists. If you don't like this country and the fact that the president was elected than do everyone a favor and leave already.
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Originally Posted by Robin Rossi
Because our loyalty, our patriotiosm is to the idea of freedom and liberty, to a way of life, the very concept
of individual sovereignty, and NOT, to a massive bloated steal-from-the-productive-and-give-to the-parasite government.
You wouldn't understand.
You keep saying freedom and liberty but if you did not have these things would you be able to so openly criticize the government ? You have as much freedom as anyone does at least up until you assault or kill someone, so what freedom has been taken away ?
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Originally Posted by RebelYell14
What's more patriotic than ignoring a tyrants orders? Pretty damn patriotic if you ask me.I was never loyal to this country,I never will be. I pledge loyalty to my family and people first,my nation second and my nation is not the USA...so whatever.
Like I asked above if obama was such a tyrant than why has he had such a hard time getting anything done ? If he were a tyrant perhaps he'd do what bush jr. did and ram home every bill he wanted right through the house and senate. If he were such a tyrant don't you think you'd be dead by now for speaking out against him ? Remember the government has the nsa,cia, and fbi and neither of these agencies are stupid.
He will get around to it. Don't underestimate the man. He is a moron in his sense of what he wants done,but he is dangerous and a threat to this country and to the people of this country.
He will get around to it. Don't underestimate the man. He is a moron in his sense of what he wants done,but he is dangerous and a threat to this country and to the people of this country.
You sound even more dangerous then he is because you believe your own crazy, I think you should be watched or.....PERHAPS HE IS ALREADY WATCHING !!!!!
OK. That's your opinion. I am dangerous. I believe in freedom,liberty,and defending my family and people. I will die for that. So yes I am very dangerous.Someone who actually believes in what he says.
OK. That's your opinion. I am dangerous. I believe in freedom,liberty,and defending my family and people. I will die for that. So yes I am very dangerous.Someone who actually believes in what he says.
If you have to keep telling everyone you believe in those things than you are lying to yourself and everyone on this board. You advocate secession, you call the president a tyran with no evidence other than what you think. And you really think you care about liberty or any of those other things ? where you one of those people after 9/11 flying the flag everyone stickers all over your cars and calling french fries freedom fries ? Yeah I see what kind of patriot you are.
Because our loyalty, our patriotiosm is to the idea of freedom and liberty, to a way of life, the very concept
of individual sovereignty, and NOT, to a massive bloated steal-from-the-productive-and-give-to the-parasite government.
You wouldn't understand.
You're right. I don't understand not using logic.
Re patriotism - it is about loving the PEOPLE of this country, because without the people of this country, this is just a pretty darn empty piece of land with only animals and plants on it.
True patriotism is absent of these things:
Veiled racism;
Believing there are hobgoblins and spectre enemies behind every rock waiting to pounce at you, so you need to have a gun constantly at the ready;
About using scapegoats to blame for this country's troubles;
About giving a free ride to the powerful simply because they are powerful and you have it hammered into your head that they're somehow more hard-working than others;
About marching around showing off a flag lapel pin;
About banging your chest about how other countries are oh-so-much-worse; and,
About getting on the ground and practically licking the heels of every sob right-wing authoritarian who spews words of hatred and false bravado.
Nope sure wasn't one of those people. I didn't care about 9/11 much I was I was 15 years old....I care now because I know Bush knew about it and either let it happen or participated in it happening.
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