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Old 01-23-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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social security number inadmissible hearsay
I thought you couldn't answer my question to you.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Not about the discovery of the guy in the 1940 census. That new information was released early this morning confirming the guy having the same SS number that Obama has had actually existed.
I'm pretty sure I read about some dead guy with the same SS# as Obama. Sorry to deflate your balloon.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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I didn't bother to read through most of the crap on this thread (because that's what it is) but just a quick comment--you're dealing with something that I know a whole lot about, and what you're claiming is total BS. I've been doing genealogy for 30+ years, and I've spent a good chunk of my free time pouring through old census records. The census pages for 1930 were handwritten, as were those in 1940--they wait 70 years to release census data publicly, so the 1940 census was just now released and indexed in the last year or so. The pages are organized by location, with neighbors next to neighbors, head of household listed first with dependents under them. Each line on each form is numbered. There's no way that you could cut and paste the census without it becoming pretty obvious, so nothing was "doctored." The pages were listed and available on sites like Ancestry.com as soon as they were released.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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It doesn't make any difference what you come up with, because there is no court with subject matter jurisdiction to hear the evidence for lack of anyone with standing to sue.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It was a different dead guy that was "discovered" back in 2011.

snopes.com: Jean Paul Ludwig Obama SSN

Same song, different verse.

Here's another verse, some guy who died in Cincinnati:

Cheryl Meril's Candid Blog- Nob Hill Notary: Say What? Obama Used Dead Man's Social Security Number Plus New Revelations Of Birth Certificate Forgery
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Interesting things here:

"It is now a known fact that Obama has never had a legitimate long form birth certificate to prove his identity."

WRONG, there is a long form bc released.

Second according to this data, Michelle would have had to been in cahoots with this YEARS before they even met. I guess it's just manifest destiny for those two.

Third, varying "databases" pull varying things. For instance, that SS that you provided has some places that did not pull based off of bounel's name AT ALL. Unless it is directly from the SS database, it's accuracy will be wrong esp. when dealing with consumer databases which is always wrong and mostly dependent upon people providing personal information and that information being accurate.

Fourth, if the author was denied and allowed to appeal WHY didn't he do just that?

Fifth that census track looks like bonnel and not bounel, IJS.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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the "harry j bounel" claim dates back to august 2011.

Is Barack Obama Harry J Bounel? And why would he have the same SS# as this man?
This comes as a shock?

Obama, as president of these United States, ordered an American Citizen executed with a drone strike, without any trial as required by our constitution.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Here is a question. The SSN pull in the first exhibit shows this Harry guy was dated on 11/2009. That would make Harry 119 years old at that time. Yet other exhibits show Harry dies in 1950. So where did this record come from? Meanwhile the same pull shows Obama records many years prior to the Harry record. Seems like an obvious case about bad databases. The only semi-official data is that the SSN was not found in the Social Security Death Index. I say semi-official since not all deaths are recorded in it but is available to the public.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:33 AM
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Wendell, please explain how Harrison J. Bounel and Obama are tied together with the same social security number? Go back and look at the data base pull and the 1940 census in the OP.
You first, please explain how any of this SSN nonsense refutes the birth certificate issued by the State of Hawaii that has been verified multiple times as authentic by both Republican and Democrat state officials.

You can come up with as many ridiculous conspiracy theories as you want, but until you can convince the State of Hawaii that their own birth certificate is a fake and that Obama was not born there, you have bupkis.
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