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And this is "liberalism"? Sounds like liberals exercising some staunch "conservatism". Hence, more evidence to point toward us silly Americans just like our labels, regardless of our understanding of them.
Liberalism.... conservatism.... whatever? I call it what it is! Authoritative BULL****!!!! I really wish these authoritarian types would move somewhere like North Korea! They'd fit in quite nicely with their narrow world views and fetish for controlling others!
Well, I'm a liberal Oregon smoker and a part of me wishes this were a law. It would be so much easier to quit if the cigarettes weren't so readily available. Every time I've tried to quit, it was just so easy to jump in the car and go buy a pack when I couldn't take it anymore. If I couldn't do that I'd be forced to tough it out and within a week I'd be over the worst of it.
Sure, there would be bootleg cigarettes available, but I'm too much of a scaredy cat to do anything illegal. And certainly non-smokers would never even have a chance to start smoking. If it weren't for the powerful tobacco lobby, cigarettes would and should be an illegal substance.
Once again, there's a large difference between Oregon proposing to ban cigarettes--and one man inOregonproposing to ban cigarettes. People like to complain about the weak level of reporting in the mainstream media, but unfortunately the level of journalism in the non-mainstream media and blogosphere is just as bad.
I was watching Hannity last night while he attempted to enrage his viewing audiance about one NY assembly member who previously pitched confiscating all guns in the state of NY. Hannity did not miss a beat as he segwayed this into the Obama plan for the nation.
sayulita, I think the same thing. I smoke, a lot! It's my own fault of course for not quitting. I try, then I get weak & start all over again. I do think quitting cold turkey is the way to do it, no aids involved. I'm sure cigarettes won't be completely illegal though, too much money from tobacco companies. I'm happy they legalized pot though.
Well, I'm a liberal Oregon smoker and a part of me wishes this were a law. It would be so much easier to quit if the cigarettes weren't so readily available. Every time I've tried to quit, it was just so easy to jump in the car and go buy a pack when I couldn't take it anymore. If I couldn't do that I'd be forced to tough it out and within a week I'd be over the worst of it.
Sure, there would be bootleg cigarettes available, but I'm too much of a scaredy cat to do anything illegal. And certainly non-smokers would never even have a chance to start smoking. If it weren't for the powerful tobacco lobby, cigarettes would and should be an illegal substance.
Yeah, but what about people who like an occasional cigar? Or a cigarette with a drink once in a while--should that be illegal too? I quit smoking, but I still might like the occasional Dominican Cohiba with friends. Cigarettes have already been restricted almost everywhere, taxed at high levels--and so on... Why should we have to open up another front in the endless drug war? Do we really need local gangs and organized crime to just start raking cash in another government created black market... I mean I support anyone strongly who wants to quit smoking, but at the same time, it's not something that we need this level of legislative restrictions to enforce.
All the same though, it doesn't matter since this bill won't make it very far. The small business owners will oppose it and the often cash-strapped State of Oregon gets plenty of revenue off of the cigarette tax.
Prescribed By a Doctor?? What Dr. would prescribe cigarettes?
They lost the vote for Legal MaryJ which is a negative... looks like something going wrong with their policies.
Doesn't stand a chance in hell, but the smoking bans are all a shell game, follow the money.
Oregon currently spends $7.5 million a year on tobacco prevention and cessation programs, which is 17.5 percent of the $43 million recommended by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Other key findings for Oregon include:
Oregon this year will collect $332 million in revenue from the 1998 tobacco settlement and tobacco taxes, but will spend just 2.3 percent of it – all from tobacco tax revenues – on tobacco prevention programs. This means Oregon is spending just two cents of every dollar in tobacco revenue to fight tobacco use.
The tobacco companies spend $99.6 million a year to market their products in Oregon. This is 13 times what the state spends on tobacco prevention.
I don't see cigarette marketing anywhere, besides a smoke shop. Where is it?
I commented last night that I think there's a lot of smoking on tv, I thought they were going to ban that too.
Prescribed By a Doctor?? What Dr. would prescribe cigarettes?
They lost the vote for Legal MaryJ which is a negative... looks like something going wrong with their policies.
Oregon will probably vote again on legalizing ganja before they actually ban all cigarettes though... If this cigarette law was put to a public vote I doubt it would it would get much support--there's still a lot of smokers in this state--both liberals and conservatives.
I been hoping to move to Oregon for a few years now, but the Communists have taken over. May as well stay in Cali.
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