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Old 02-03-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I wish we had one.
Yeah, I don't.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It would be a bloodbath.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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No one would be forced by any law or governmental program to share his money with others or to donate money to anyone.
Translation: I don't want to have to share my money...with other people!"
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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ROFLAMO, here's a snippet from another article from the same website:

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Average people think selfishness is a vice. Rich people think selfishness is a virtue.


“The rich go out there and try to make themselves happy. They don’t try to pretend to save the world,” Siebold told Business Insider.The problem is that middle class people see that as a negative––and it’s keeping them poor, he writes.
Libertarianism is just a facade for legislated selfishness.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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That's anarchy and warlords not Libertarianism I wouldn't expect you to know the difference though.
What's to stop warlords here....remember no taxes means no police.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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So you want totally open borders. Interesting.
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The problem is that we never get a choice. I am mostly Libertarian, but I do not accept the open borders policy as long as third world backwaters exist. As for "services" I believe most of them would be covered by private investment or by voluntary subscription. The powers that be will always resist Libertarian ideals because they know that once they took hold, the current system backed by violence would fail.
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ROFLAMO, here's a snippet from another article from the same website:



Libertarianism is just a facade for legislated selfishness.
So we shouldn't be allowed to keep what's ours and what we made? Interesting.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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So we shouldn't be allowed to keep what's ours and what we made? Interesting.
By this logic, we should ban all forms of taxation in its entirety.

No man or woman is purely self made. You owe your family, your friends, and, yes, society a debt for, at the very least, the various vaccinations and medical advancements that ensure you did not have a 25% chance of surviving to adulthood. Unless if you struck it out in the jungle, you have no right to complain about reasonable levels of taxation designed to benefit the common good.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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What's to stop warlords here....remember no taxes means no police.
No federal taxes...things go back to the state running them where they belong..there would be police but also a voluntary citizens guard or militia.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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By this logic, we should ban all forms of taxation in its entirety.

No man or woman is purely self made. You owe your family, your friends, and, yes, society a debt for, at the very least, the various vaccinations and medical advancements that ensure you did not have a 25% chance of surviving to adulthood. Unless if you struck it out in the jungle, you have no right to complain about reasonable levels of taxation designed to benefit the common good.
And you think the rate of taxation is reasonable now? NO ONE should have the right to take the money you made...if a citizen does it its theft the government does it its taxes...interesting...And yes they are self made,yeah your parents raised you but they didn't give anything you worked for to you. You bust your butt and get it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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No
OK, so when you said you wished we had a totally libertarian society, what you meant was a totally libertarian society except for the author's point #7 regarding totally open borders.

You should have mentioned that up front.
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