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Old 02-05-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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So if they advertised that they were a Christian bakery then they wouldn't be discriminating because it was all up front before the gay couple walked through the door ?
Why would they assume that he is a bigot just because he advertised it was a Christian bakery? You seem to be assuming that all Christians are bigots. They aren't.

 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:07 AM
 
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they were democrats and in the democrat party.
Which didn't make them 'liberals' by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:08 AM
 
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Where in the bible does it say "thou shalt not make cakes for lesbians"?

I have never heard of any religion that deals with the sales of baked goods.
Where in the Bible does it say anything at all about lesbians?

Nowhere.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Let's be clear. If the lesbians walked into the bakery and simply bought some cookies or a loaf of bread, I'm sure the owner wouldn't have thrown them out or told them not to return. HOWEVER, the lesbian wanted to CONTRACT the baker to make a lesbian wedding cake. The owner does not WANT to make a lesbian wedding cake and refuses to enter into the contract. That is his right as a private business owner. He could refuse to enter into a wedding cake contract for a heterosexual couple he found annoying! It is his right.

The gays should simply go find another baker. Dare I ask how a lesbian wedding cake differs from a heterosexual wedding cake? Make your own damn cake-topper!
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Tatoos are an "abomination unto the Lord". I notice this baker has a tattoo on his arm. Rather hypocritical of him isn't it?



http://www.salon.com/2013/02/04/oreg..._wedding_cake/


However lesbians are not even mentioned in the Bible at all.

Why is that we see some "Christians" using religious beliefs as an excuse to discriminate against others, when they don't even know what the Bible does or doesn't say?
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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It is not hate or discrimination.

It is holding true to your principles.
So why does he have a tattoo?

I suppose if ignorance of the Bible, hypocrisy and bigotry are his principles, then he is "holding true to his principles"
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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If the bakers were Jewish and the people ordering the cake were neo nazi skinheads that wanted a cake for Hitler's birthday that had a big swatstika on it would you fell the same way? Would the bakers still be wrong if they did not want to server this particular customer?
No they could could refuse to make a cake like that. Being a Neo-nazi skinhead isn't a protected class like race, religion, gender etc (and in Oregon- sexual orientation).
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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So why does he have a tattoo?

I suppose if ignorance of the Bible, hypocrisy and bigotry are his principles, then he is "holding true to his principles"
He's probably wearing a polyester/cotton blend too, but Christian's are not under the OT law. But, of course, being a person knowledgeable about these things, you already knew that.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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This is a thorny issue. What if I was a dressmaker and the KKK wanted me to make some robes for them? They are a perfectly legal organization. Can I say no because I don't agree with them?

Does it make a difference that it is a small business? What about it if is a service that is readily available at other businesses vs one that was the sole provider of a service in an area?
Members of the KKK are not a protected class.

Perhaps this will make it clearer:

Protected class is a term used in United States anti-discrimination law.[1] The term describes characteristics or factors which cannot be targeted for discrimination and harassment. The following characteristics are considered "Protected Classes" and persons cannot be discriminated against based on these characteristics:Some states like Oregon include sexual orientation as a protected class.

Protected class - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 02-05-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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Personal feelings set aside.

A private business owner has the right to away any business he or she does not want to do, for whatever reason they see fit. This is not a government agency that is serving the people and they are under no obligation to do business with any person.
The government really has no standing in investigating this business for turning away anyone.
And you would be incorrect.
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