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Japan doesn't have the military resources and is dependent on the US. I don't see Obama engaging in such conflict unless he is pushed and doesn't have choice.
China on the other hand is interested in minimizing US influence in the Far East. China also has the means to defeat Japan and is capable of doing so. Time will tell.
It is a real possibility that those two could go to war in the near future. That would put America in a bind because we have a treaty with Japan(defense treaty) but we need China to help finance our entitlement programs. So what do we do? We have to side with Japan or be the biggest traitors in history. Its scary.
I hope not - where else am I supposed to get my cheap crap from??
I don't have a crystal ball, but we know that China hasn't gone to war over Taiwan so I find the present territorial dust-up unlikely to start an actual shooting war. But having said that, wars have been unintentional started in the past.
It is a real possibility that those two could go to war in the near future. That would put America in a bind because we have a treaty with Japan(defense treaty) but we need China to help finance our entitlement programs. So what do we do? We have to side with Japan or be the biggest traitors in history. Its scary.
There is zero possibility that Japan and China will go to war in the near future. The leaders of China are authoritarians with no respect for human rights but they aren't irrational. They are not going to risk nuclear annihilation.
I don't have a crystal ball, but we know that China hasn't gone to war over Taiwan so I find the present territorial dust-up unlikely to start an actual shooting war. But having said that, wars have been unintentional started in the past.
This. Going to war over those tiny islands would be ridiculous, and overall not very likely. Taiwan is a much more likelier trigger, but, China understands MAD. Even if China occupied the Senkaku islands, I doubt Japan would do much more then make a global protest. The world at large would likely admonish China, but keep buying Chinese goods and selling China their debt.
It is a real possibility that those two could go to war in the near future. That would put America in a bind because we have a treaty with Japan(defense treaty) but we need China to help finance our entitlement programs. So what do we do? We have to side with Japan or be the biggest traitors in history. Its scary.
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your chain of events makes no sense. why would china attack japan?
also, china attacking south korea? that makes even less sense. the two are well on their way to being allies. also, the reason some chinese hate japan (wwii) ... south koreans have the same hatred of japan in case you haven't noticed. they would NEVER side with japan on that issue.
china gains nothing by starting a war, especially in the near term. it's not going to happen.
the world is a lot more interconnected than it was in the 1930s/1940s. international trade is what has stopped these big useless wars, and is what will prevent them in the future.
The premise of the thread itself is a Japanese Chinese war, it is in and of itself fictional so does it really matter who i chose to attack who first ?
China and South Korea have less diplomatic relations than the U.S. and China do so im not sure how you can say they are close to being allies( ROK and PRC have only been on friendly terms since 1992). China and North Korea however do have a mutual defense pact, which is why an attack on PRK is an attack on China.
im confused on your "ROK would never side with Japan" argument, where on earth did you get that from ?
Japan and ROK have a cultural disconnect, but they are still trading partners and both allies of the U.S. Why would you think ROK would side with China over Japan when Japan is the nation that opened the relation between those 2 nations in the first place ?
Japan is much more of an ally than China is.
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