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Alot has been said as to how "evil" America is and how we should help the "poor" and "Lower Classes", but what, pray tell, is the plan?
What is your idea for helping the poor? I want this thread to be a forum for how those on the left of society plan to help the poor. No attacks. No race-baiting. Straight answers
Why has this got to come from the left? Why does this have to be a political issue, as opposed to a social and moral issue?
My suggestions....well, I'd start with healthcare. Many people are poor or run the risk of being poor because in this country, getting sick can = financial ruin.
What about when you make one mistake in life, and that mistake digs you into a hole, and the more you try to get out, the deeper the hole gets? It seems to me that is what the current "social safety net" in the US entails. There are many people who made a few bad mistakes and are down on their luck and can't get anywhere in life and are slipping towards homelessness. It doesn't even have to be really bad mistakes, it can be just some little ones that cascade into something bigger.
Dude i am that guy, i got out of it and am still getting out of it i can give other people advice
I would also warn anybody saying that somebody who is poor and jobless doesn't contribute anything to society. This is precisely the rhetoric used by National Socialist in their Action T4 program in Germany in the late 30's. Do you really want to live in a society that evaluates human worth based on the amount of money they can give back to society? What about the fact that alot of poor people are friends and neighbors, brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers to the rest of the citizenry? Do these social ties have no value?
sure they do, but when aunt debbie is living off welfare popping out babies and mooching off anybody and anything it isnt very impressive weather she is my aunt or not. and also its not evalauting on whta they bring in, but weather they mooch off of
under that logic, we should put anyone in prison for commiting a crime becasue that would deprive someone of a whatever relative.
its not a matter of finaincial worth its a matter of them at least making an effort.
as far as what to do in my honest opinion...throw people into the fire, you would be surprised at how well they do when they have to
Why has this got to come from the left? Why does this have to be a political issue, as opposed to a social and moral issue?
My suggestions....well, I'd start with healthcare. Many people are poor or run the risk of being poor because in this country, getting sick can = financial ruin.
i have worked with broken bones, sicker then a dog, and other not in the best of health..becasue i had too.
I know there are some circumstances that cant be helped, but come on. are you going to pay for it? or do you want that for yourself?
have you ever given your last bit of money to get a homeless man food, have you given away all your food possible to someone who hasnt had any, not knowing when you could eat again, have you opened your home to others who have had a run of bad luck?
how dare you judge others and make statement like that, what a hypocrite
Life long benefits end at 5 years. That was implemented under Clinton.
Oh well okay that's great - learned something new today
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Originally Posted by texcali32
I completely agree that the government SHOULD say im not going to continue to support you if you are abusing the system. Maybe the comment I made about the government saying how many babies we could have was a little dramatic but I think the solution needs to start at home. Is it "Susie's" fault she got pregnant at 17 or is the government agency's fault for allowing her to add more children for coverage? It's not the babies fault so what do we do??
I think we teach our kids ACCOUNTABILITY!!! From what I see parents are not teaching this. I teach my 9 year old that no one is going to bail you out, consequences to your actions.
here's an example, the mortgage crisis...Is it the governments responsibilty to bail out people who got loans they could not afford?? is it even the mortgage companies problem?? nope it's the individuals.
You are right, it starts at home - no one is disputing that.
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Originally Posted by roseba
How come we are farther behind then Cuba? It's mighty embarrassing.
"Americans have always embraced capitalism and accepted the legitimacy of the highly variable standards of living it produces. But even as recently as 15 years ago, they would have been justified in pointing at others overseas - Brazilian society was often cited as the archetype - for extreme inequality of wealth distribution. Today, they increasingly take for granted the stagnation, at best, of the vast American middle class. Many American workers, under enormous pressure from global competition, aren't getting ahead."
Alot has been said as to how "evil" America is and how we should help the "poor" and "Lower Classes", but what, pray tell, is the plan?
What is your idea for helping the poor? I want this thread to be a forum for how those on the left of society plan to help the poor. No attacks. No race-baiting. Straight answers
Along with the other good ideas posted IMO if it doesn't come from government leadership, where will it come. Certainly there are many organizations that aid the poor, however they for the most part are not large or efficient enough.
We are in a very odd stage as a nation.Some things that are extremely detrimental to the middle class has many good Americans feeling betrayed. This is not only devisive but dangerous. There are many things Gov't can do but probably won't for reasons I won't discuss.
It seems reasonable to expect our leaders to prevent illegal immigration and to control legal immigration.
I can't imagine that enforceable regulation cannot curtail our companies from the damaging actions many are taking. These companies could be prevented from selling their products in the U.S. and denied re-entry if they tried.
Our Dept. of Labor needs to act like one--and be on the side of middle class Americans.
The outsourcing of middle class jobs must be controlled. Manufacturing must be revived in America.
Sure, we are for legitimate national defense--but we are also for a legitimate gov't. that prevents our country from becoming a province of a class oriented pack of thieves who claim intelligence. If our Gov't. improves many poor would have less pressures and have a better chance to improve.
Please don't refer to me as a absolute protectionist, I'm not, but I need assurance that our Gov't is for Americans first and that they will prevent the unethical Americans from having their way.
Of course this requires our leaders to not sell us out. It requires our Gov't to abstain from policies that create poverty here at home.
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