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I get it...men "know the risks"...when they engage in consensual sex and therefore should redeem the consequneces of their actions...
Meanwhile, women are helpless harlots
The liberal has made her point.
Helpless harlots?
So we see how you feel about all women, don't we?
Arguing biology isn't getting you anywhere.
A female doesn't get pregnant without the introduction of sperm.
Not arguing with biology sounds reasonable and simplifies the issue. If a pregnancy occurs, you let biology play out. This eliminates the concept of choice. Good call!
Do you do the same with cancer?
Or do you remove it if it offends you?
I have not received an answer as of yet and This thread is no different.
The root of this is that your mind is starting with a "standard" that isn't real then you apply a "double standard" to that. You HAVE to start with reality or nothing is going to make sense to you. Ever. There is no such thing as what you are trying to create in your head.
Miscarriage is one of the most frequent problems in human pregnancy. The most widely accepted definition is that proposed by the World Health Organization in 1977. The incidence among clinical pregnancies (a pregnancy that is confirmed by both high levels of hCG and ultrasound confirmation of a gestational sac) is about 12-15%, but including early pregnancy losses it is 17-22%.
The root of this is that your mind is starting with a "standard" that isn't real then you apply a "double standard" to that. You HAVE to start with reality or nothing is going to make sense to you. Ever. There is no such thing as what you are trying to create in your head.
Really? There's no such thing as women giving up babies for adoption? That's just a fantasy I've created in my head?
Nurse: What name do we put for the Father?
Mother: I don't know the father.
Nurse: Oh, ok. We will put unknown.
Adoption center: Hello.
Mother: I want to give my baby up for adoption. I don't know who the father is.
Adopt. Center: Ok, Fill this out.
And I said, if a man is that concerned about a pregnancy that may come about.....he should keep tabs on his "deposits"......then he will know if the woman becomes pregnant and can step in and take possession of the baby if she tries to put it up for adoption.
I do not believe that fathers have enough say in whether or not a woman carrying their fetus should have an abortion.
As it stands, a woman can abort a fetus despite whatever opinion the father may have on the issue. If he wants her to keep the fetus, she can still abort. If he doesn't want her to keep the fetus, she can abort.
What about the scenarios where the man DOESN'T want her to keep the fetus and the woman refuses to abort! This is wrong to me. I think if the father wants the pregnancy terminated the mother should follow through with his wishes and end the pregnacy.
I think in order for a pregnancy to come to term their needs to be MUTUAL consent on whether or not to have a baby. If either parent is in disagreement then the fetus should be aborted promptly.
What do you all think? As a very pro-choice person I think there needs to be consent from both parties before a child is born.
I consider myself the opposite of you ( I'm strongly anti-abortion) however you raise some good points and I agree that the father should have input.
In fact, since abortion is legal...............it should be treated like a car wreck.
Here are the way they should be similar----------
guy gets girl pregnant and admits to be the future father ..........guy driving totals out girl car and is proven to be at fault
In 2nd scenario, he would have to pay for fixing the car or the blue book value of the car ( whichever is LESS )
In first scenario, the guy should have to pay for the cost of the abortion or child support until 18 ( whichever is LESS )
He should be ordered to pay child support only if he is against her having an abortion.
He should not have to pay for the abortion if he is willing to support the child.
That certainly is not my pro-life view, but if abortion is legal it should be the way I described.
If not, why not ?
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