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Old 03-05-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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That's they told Hoover just before the bottom dropped out............

Herbert Hoover

Although Herbert Hoover has been blamed for the stock market crash, he, in fact, warned President Coolidge in 1925 about the dangers of excessive stock market speculation. He again expressed concern while running for president in 1928. After the crash, Herbert Hoover ordered federal departments to speed up construction projects, cut $160 million in taxes, and doubled the amount spent on public works. By 1933, one-fourth of the nation's workers were unemployed. In addition to the high unemployment, the American economy experienced slow economic growth and financial instability. Hoover was criticized for his refusal to authorize large-scale relief programs that might have alleviated the nation's suffering and hunger, his unwillingness to use a significant amount of federal dollars to stimulate the nation's economy, and his failure to recognize the all-encompassing nature of the Great Depression.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Gas prices climbed to over $4 in July 2008, and then dropped to $1.82 when the economy crashed in Fall 2008.

Try looking at this annual gas price chart: http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...s%20prices.png

And inflation is part of life. Nearly all things go up in price over time. This is nothing new.
Inflation does typically happen, but not this fast. And inflation doesn't have to be a part of life. The government believes 3% is a good rate. That means every year the average person needs a 3% raise just to maintain purchasing power. That is a "normal" rate. Presently we are experiencing more than that and the CPI doesn't factor in food or fuel. Are you saying the pumping of new currency in by the fed hasn't increased the rate of inflation? What is you explanation for a "record" DJIA but with the economy in poor shape? How come everything around me has rapid increased in price? I'm not an old guy. I'm not reminiscing over 5 cent Cokes. Prices normally double every 20 years or so. Things are happening much faster than that. Have you looked at shipping parcels lately? I've been ebaying for 13 years and in the last 3-4 years the cost of shipping has massively increased even after gas prices shot up. There are plenty of examples. I work in a recession resistant industry (tax software) and raises have been few and far between for everyone. I've worked for multiple companies during that time and hopping job to job is just about the only way to increase pay it seems.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Has nothing to do with Obama.
But if the Dow plunges 300 tomorrow, I think I know exactly whom the cons will blame.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Again, where are the jobs?
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Stock Market To Break All-Time High - Thanks Obama!

That Obama...

He coulda been a Wall St tycoon.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Again, where are the jobs?

Here

I thought you Pubs were OK with "American" companies laying off union workers to hire commies in their place.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:53 PM
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I don't think Obama would think the current economy is a success. My returns have been great, in the stock and real estate markets, but I am not one Obama is trying to help. The people he is trying to help still have misery after 4 years.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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It looks like today will be the day when the Dow Jones breaks through it's previous all time high set in October 2007.

The Dow is currently at 14,127 and futures point upward.

Dow set to break through all-time closing high

Just 4 years ago March 9, 2009 - almost to the exact date, the market fell to it's lowest point in 12 years.

CNNMoney.com Market Report - Mar. 9, 2009

President Obama had just come into office.

The economy was facing it's worst crisis since the Great Depression.

The stock market had crashed.

And today ... just 4 years later ... we are ready to set a new Dow record !!!

yuh can't compare the essence of meaning in the points ...in this time relative to 6 or whatever years ago....so its about 300-400 points off a comparable suggestion
second the dollar is doing well....but it always does before it goes for a walk down memory lane and thats where its understood to go.

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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It took FOUR YEARS of solid leadership in the White House to get to where we are today.
More like 4 years of near zero borrowing rates
Sound familiar
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: it depends
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It looks like today will be the day when the Dow Jones breaks through it's previous all time high set in October 2007.

The Dow is currently at 14,127 and futures point upward.

Dow set to break through all-time closing high

Just 4 years ago March 9, 2009 - almost to the exact date, the market fell to it's lowest point in 12 years.

CNNMoney.com Market Report - Mar. 9, 2009

President Obama had just come into office.

The economy was facing it's worst crisis since the Great Depression.

The stock market had crashed.

And today ... just 4 years later ... we are ready to set a new Dow record !!!
Thank you for proving, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that President Obama was simply lying to America about the sequester. The market sure isn't going for Obama's attempt to substitute fear for leadership.
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