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Old 05-01-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Trayvon Martin is NOT on trial, no matter how much some of you wish he were!
When the trial begins and tm's past behavior becomes an issue, he will in a sense be on trial. It's pretty common for the victim's character and behavior to be an issue. You can and when it happens.

 
Old 05-01-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Gee......ironic how the people who are so worried that Zimmerman isn't going to get a fair trial see nothing wrong with him playing judge, jury, and executioner that night.

People get all outraged when some of us speculate as to what Zimmerman's motives were that night but see nothing wrong with vilifying a dead kid with no criminal record.

There is still no proof that Trayvon was doing anything wrong. Could he have veered off course a little, done a little wandering on his way back from the store? Yes. It still doesn't mean squat. I have sons, one the same age now that Trayvon was when he died, and I can absolutely picture him not being in any real hurry to get home, "dilly daddling" is what I call it, while talking on his cell phone.

As for what they found on him that "wasn't a weapon" - what the hell? I see a lot of jumping to conclusions and reading between the lines based on some mysterious item that is alluded to in a newspaper article.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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[snip]but see nothing wrong with vilifying a dead kid with no criminal record.

[snip].
and when the trial begins.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: 77441
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When the trial begins and tm's past behavior becomes an issue, he will in a sense be on trial. It's pretty common for the victim's character and behavior to be an issue. You can and when it happens.

which is why the prosecution and po' little tray'von's family is doing EVERYTHING they can to keep po' little tray'von's history out of court.
Last thing they need is a jury to lern what a thug po' little tray'von was...
 
Old 05-01-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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which is why the prosecution and po' little tray'von's family is doing EVERYTHING they can to keep po' little tray'von's history out of court.
Last thing they need is a jury to lern what a thug po' little tray'von was...
What "history?" He had no criminal history - unlike your hero Zimmerman, who did have a "history" but who managed to manipulate the system in a way that he was able to avoid jail.

Well, regardless of what the jury hears, I hope they're smart enough to realize that nothing gave Zimmerman the right to play judge, jury, and executioner and that it was his actions that caused the events of that night and that resulted in the death of a teenager.

The only "thug" in this story is Zimmerman.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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When the trial begins and tm's past behavior becomes an issue, he will in a sense be on trial. It's pretty common for the victim's character and behavior to be an issue. You can and when it happens.
There will be limits on how far the defense can go regarding Trayvon's past. Plus, hammering the dead victim can backfire on the defense. Often jurors don't like that strategy of "destroy the DEAD victim."

And below is what will be done to basically counter all the publicity in re this case, which you seems to concern you so much. Jury selection will take two to three weeks, (HALF of the time allocated for the entire trial and a total of 10 to 15 full days for voir dire) AND the Judge is going to call 500 people from which the attorneys will pick out 12 jurors and a few alternates.

"O'Mara on Tuesday predicted the trial would last four to six weeks, with half of that time spent on jury selection.

The judge has said she wants to summon 500 potential jurors, far more than the five-story building and parking lot can accommodate."

George Zimmerman back in court today - Orlando Sentinel
 
Old 05-01-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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which is why the prosecution and po' little tray'von's family is doing EVERYTHING they can to keep po' little tray'von's history out of court.
Last thing they need is a jury to lern what a thug po' little tray'von was...
Thank god people who feel this way ^^^^ and express themselves in the same way will not be selected to be on the jury.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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and when the trial begins.
Do you really think the defense will be given an unlimited open-door to attack Trayvon? And do you really think that would be a good strategy for the defense? I'm thinking that none of that social media crap will make it into the trial.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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Do you really think the defense will be given an unlimited open-door to attack Trayvon? And do you really think that would be a good strategy for the defense? I'm thinking that none of that social media crap will make it into the trial.
Hard to say. Unlike a civil case...Zimmerman's defense just has to thwart the prosecution not score a win.

I was listening to NPR on the drive home yesterday and they gave an update and it seems like the prosecution is essentially stalling, which is generally not a good sign for them.

The lying girlfriend is going to hurt the prosecution as well.

It may turn out that poor prosecution and some dumb decisions by key witnesses might give Zimmerman just enough of a crack to escape.
 
Old 05-01-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000 View Post
There will be limits on how far the defense can go regarding Trayvon's past. Plus, hammering the dead victim can backfire on the defense. Often jurors don't like that strategy of "destroy the DEAD victim."

And below is what will be done to basically counter all the publicity in re this case, which you seems to concern you so much. Jury selection will take two to three weeks, (HALF of the time allocated for the entire trial and a total of 10 to 15 full days for voir dire) AND the Judge is going to call 500 people from which the attorneys will pick out 12 jurors and a few alternates.

"O'Mara on Tuesday predicted the trial would last four to six weeks, with half of that time spent on jury selection.

The judge has said she wants to summon 500 potential jurors, far more than the five-story building and parking lot can accommodate."

George Zimmerman back in court today - Orlando Sentinel
If TM's past is going to be brought up, can GZ's past be brought up also?
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