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Conservatives think that it's crazy to spend tax payer money on this when there are so many other, more important things going on. Conservatives hate entitlements. The U.S has a $17,000,000,000,000 + debt and it's only increasing with Obama in office. Some people don't understand economics.
Liberals think that free birth control helps support women's rights. These people think they are fighting for equality but what they are really fighting for is special treatment towards women. How can you be fighting for equality if men and women aren't given equal treatment/equal rights? Have you ever seen a campaign fighting for men's rights (if you did it is very uncommon)?
I agree, I think the condoms idea is a good solution.
Isn't covering birth control just the other half to covering Viagra? Birth control doesn't only benefit women. I'm one dude who's glad that I haven't had any accidental kids... Viagra-free kids, that is.
In what way is providing medical coverage of a birth control pill prescription giving women preferential treatment? How is women's health an "entitlement"? I very much would like to have these explained.
And how much would covering a script for the pill realistically add to the national debt?
Birth control pills aren't "women's health". They cure no, nor prevent no, disease.
Because many people believe that sex is for procreation only.
Then they shouldn't use it.
Pretty simple.
I don't use heart attach prevention medication, diabetes medication, cancer meds or blood pressure medication.
Because I don't use it (or think that those who need it live a bad lifestyle, which I don't) should they not also be excluded from insurance coverage?
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Originally Posted by Ratherbefishing
Conservatives think that it's crazy to spend tax payer money on this when there are so many other, more important things going on. Conservatives hate entitlements. The U.S has a $17,000,000,000,000 + debt and it's only increasing with Obama in office. Some people don't understand economics.
Liberals think that free birth control helps support women's rights. These people think they are fighting for equality but what they are really fighting for is special treatment towards women. How can you be fighting for equality if men and women aren't given equal treatment/equal rights? Have you ever seen a campaign fighting for men's rights (if you did it is very uncommon)?
I agree, I think the condoms idea is a good solution.
This is where the bs begins.
Who's asking for free anything?
We want it covered under our insurance, just like blood pressure medicine, etc.
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The basic "women are whores" approach to health care.
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You should buy me lunch tomorrow. I mean seriously it won't cost that much, I promise.
I'm not against birth control, this is one of the few liberal entitlements that doesn't bother me that much. It is more the priciple, people have no limits and think that other people should just pay for their stuff. If you don't understand what's wrong with that then I don't know what to tell you. Do you have even the slightest clue how much the U.S spends on entitlements every year? If you don't you should look it up, it is mind blowing. This isn't about a few pills, it's about the U.S becoming a total welfare state.
Btw, I don't know how much it would cost but do the math. Over 300,000,000 people live in the country. About have of those are women. Let's say 30% require birth control. Let's say they take it for 20-25 years. How much does a pill cost? Nothing in this world is free. Btw, this country is in crazy debt. Do you realize how this whole debt thing works?
Here is the defination of an entitlement: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges a
government program providing benefits to members of a specified group.
In other words, an entitlemnet is a gov't funded program that provides benefits. In this case, it happens to be only to women. The rest I'll leave up to you.
You should buy me lunch tomorrow. I mean seriously it won't cost that much, I promise.
I'm not against birth control, this is one of the few liberal entitlements that doesn't bother me that much. It is more the priciple, people have no limits and think that other people should just pay for their stuff. If you don't understand what's wrong with that then I don't know what to tell you. Do you have even the slightest clue how much the U.S spends on entitlements every year? If you don't you should look it up, it is mind blowing.
Btw, I don't know how much it would cost but do the math. Over 300,000,000 people live in the country. About have of those are women. Let's say 30% require birth control. Let's say they take it for 20-25 years. How much does a pill cost? Nothing in this world is free. Btw, this country is in crazy debt. Do you realize how this whole debt thing works?
Here is the defination of an entitlement: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges a
government program providing benefits to members of a specified group.
In other words, an entitlemnet is a gov't funded program that provides benefits. In this case, it happens to be only to women. The rest I'll leave up to you.
Then, following your logic - as a woman, I don't get erectile dysfunction, testicular cancer, nor prostate cancer, so any medications to do with those shouldn't be covered.
You should buy me lunch tomorrow. I mean seriously it won't cost that much, I promise.
I'm not against birth control, this is one of the few liberal entitlements that doesn't bother me that much. It is more the priciple, people have no limits and think that other people should just pay for their stuff. If you don't understand what's wrong with that then I don't know what to tell you. Do you have even the slightest clue how much the U.S spends on entitlements every year? If you don't you should look it up, it is mind blowing.
Btw, I don't know how much it would cost but do the math. Over 300,000,000 people live in the country. About have of those are women. Let's say 30% require birth control. Let's say they take it for 20-25 years. How much does a pill cost? Nothing in this world is free. Btw, this country is in crazy debt. Do you realize how this whole debt thing works?
Here is the defination of an entitlement: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges a
government program providing benefits to members of a specified group.
In other words, an entitlemnet is a gov't funded program that provides benefits. In this case, it happens to be only to women. The rest I'll leave up to you.
Health insurance isn't an entitlement. We pay for it, and we choose our level of coverage.
Just to put this birth control issue into perspective, younger women are going to be the people requesting birth control. At the same time, younger people pay into group health insurance provided by employers that include older workers, thus keeping older workers' premiums lower. Perhaps birth control costs insurance companies a nominal amount (it's far patented at this point), but actual birth costs a lot more, and young people should see benefits from the premiums that they pay applicable to their concerns. Since breast and prostate cancer aren't real concerns for 25-year-olds, yet accidental pregnancy is, young people should receive coverage applicable to their needs, and that includes birth control.
Not considering this an entitlement is a technicality. I still view it as one. Not matter how you spin it, the cost gets passed down to the taxpays. The government is awarding people free benefits. Call it whatever you want. I call it quasi-socialism.
Not considering this an entitlement is a technicality. I still view it as one.
So, only your concerns should be addressed when talking about issues that other people pay for, too? Would you consider cancer prevention an entitlement if young people started screaming that your mom shouldn't have access to breast cancer screening because that is a concern for age 40+ women, and not them?
If health insurance companies could pick a side, they'd choose birth control over cancer screening because young customers cost less. People complaining about birth control should be happy that young people don't turn on them.
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