Progressives again beating the drums for war.

[summers73]

Originally Posted by Maabus1999

I did not know McCain and Grahm were considered Progressives now? No longer RINOs?

Man, I can't keep up with these goal posts anymore.

They are only LBJ neo-proggies from a foreign policy standpoint. They agree with Obama and defend him in this area.

Maybe it would help if you started to draw shapes using 2 dimensions rather than 1?

[pknopp]

It does make what Feinstein says even more troublesome when you know those like McCain and Graham will back her up.

[Three Wolves In Snow]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Does he lose credibility if he does nothing? Or gives one of his speeches?

Will he be held accountable if he drags us into the conflict?

Progressives like john mccain lindsey graham are the only republican voices that I hear beating the "got to get involved" drum. Will the msm blame them and let the feinsteins and obama off the hook?

Me thinks yes!

Yep. Just like last time, when Dems and Repubs claim there are WMDs, the libs will forget that the Dems ALSO claimed these things and blame it solely on the Republicans. Bookmark this thread. Use it later for when the libs start their screaming and frothing at the mouth again, in the future.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said she and Rogers had been advised to be careful with the information, but that the Syrian government was becoming “more desperate, and we know where the chemical weapons are.”

Sound familiar?

I don't know....do the name Ruby Begonia sound familiar?

Originally Posted by OICU812

The word was that Saddam moved his chemical weapons to Syria, so maybe the OP highlighted that part because he believes Feinstein knows the WMDs from Iraq were trucked into Syria.

That never happened.

All of the chemical munitions Saddam bought from the US, France, Czechoslovakia and probably North Korea were destroyed during the 1991 Gulf War.

Originally Posted by tablemtn

Syria has had chemical weapons since the 1970's at least.

That may be true, and if it is, then Syria bought them France at the same time Iraq did.

Also, assuming that it would be true, those weapons are useless. The chemicals in chemical munitions decompose over time...just like dead bodies and all other things organic.

Originally Posted by gomexico

On a somewhat related matter: NPR had an interview with former Bush defense strategist Richard Perle and he was asked about his role in advancing the Iraqi war following 9-11. I was left with the thought that it's people such as Perle, senior advisors to Presidents, who get us into wars by advancing actions on behalf of persons who do not have our nation's best interests at heart. What a liar he is. Disgusting fellow.

Sokath...his wide open.

Ohmigod I just fell off my chair.....you're finally starting to get it. That's what happens when you finally stop drinking the Kool-Aid and believing your own lies. Falsely labeling Republicans as neo-cons is stupid...since no neo-con in the history of the Social Democats-turned-Neo-Conservatives has ever held any publicly elected office anywhere in the United States at any time ever.

Gosh....neo-cons in the Clinton White House....Scooter Libby.....Anthony Lake....neo-cons in the Bush White House....Scooter Libby.....neo-cons advising Obama on Foreign Policy during the 2008 Election...Anthony Lake.....and just look at the neo-cons that are/were on Obama's White House Staff since 2009.

And that's only part of the problem.

There's no need to hold public office....only a retard runs for election.....because the real power lies in the Bureaucracy. Presidents, Senators and Representatives do not get their hands on the raw intelligence data....but Bureaucrats do....and they can manipulate or skew that data any number of ways, by suppressing data, suppressing other related intelligence data, exaggerating intelligence data, exaggerating related intelligence data, and then spinning it all cleverly to make it sound like something entirely different than what it really is.

Politicians have to be elected, and then continuously re-elected....Bureaucrats hold their positions, and advanced in rank so long as they so desire.

Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow

Yep. Just like last time, when Dems and Repubs claim there are WMDs, the libs will forget that the Dems ALSO claimed these things and blame it solely on the Republicans. Bookmark this thread. Use it later for when the libs start their screaming and frothing at the mouth again, in the future.

You can be sure of that.

It's all part of The Plan™.

Syria has to be pacified before the US moves on Iran, and when the time comes for the US to move on Iran, it won't matter who is president. If you have a Clinton/Obama ticket in 2016 and it comes time to move on Iran, Hillary will give the order.....you can bet on it.

You can elect Ralph Nader, Denis Kucinich, Pink, Kim Kardashian, it doesn't matter....when the time comes, troops will be on the ground.

Chemically...

Mircea

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Mircea

I don't know....do the name Ruby Begonia sound familiar?



That never happened.

All of the chemical munitions Saddam bought from the US, France, Czechoslovakia and probably North Korea were destroyed during the 1991 Gulf War.



That may be true, and if it is, then Syria bought them France at the same time Iraq did.

Also, assuming that it would be true, those weapons are useless. The chemicals in chemical munitions decompose over time...just like dead bodies and all other things organic.



Sokath...his wide open.

Ohmigod I just fell off my chair.....you're finally starting to get it. That's what happens when you finally stop drinking the Kool-Aid and believing your own lies. Falsely labeling Republicans as neo-cons is stupid...since no neo-con in the history of the Social Democats-turned-Neo-Conservatives has ever held any publicly elected office anywhere in the United States at any time ever.

Gosh....neo-cons in the Clinton White House....Scooter Libby.....Anthony Lake....neo-cons in the Bush White House....Scooter Libby.....neo-cons advising Obama on Foreign Policy during the 2008 Election...Anthony Lake.....and just look at the neo-cons that are/were on Obama's White House Staff since 2009.

And that's only part of the problem.

There's no need to hold public office....only a retard runs for election.....because the real power lies in the Bureaucracy. Presidents, Senators and Representatives do not get their hands on the raw intelligence data....but Bureaucrats do....and they can manipulate or skew that data any number of ways, by suppressing data, suppressing other related intelligence data, exaggerating intelligence data, exaggerating related intelligence data, and then spinning it all cleverly to make it sound like something entirely different than what it really is.

Politicians have to be elected, and then continuously re-elected....Bureaucrats hold their positions, and advanced in rank so long as they so desire.



You can be sure of that.

It's all part of The Plan™.

Syria has to be pacified before the US moves on Iran, and when the time comes for the US to move on Iran, it won't matter who is president. If you have a Clinton/Obama ticket in 2016 and it comes time to move on Iran, Hillary will give the order.....you can bet on it.

You can elect Ralph Nader, Denis Kucinich, Pink, Kim Kardashian, it doesn't matter....when the time comes, troops will be on the ground.

Chemically...

Mircea

Gee, I thought I was cynical!

[burdell]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

McCain and Graham are ready to invade and don't even want to wait for this news to be substantiated.

Those WMDs keep moving to countries we want to invade.
As soon as the boots hit the ground they get moved.

They'll soon be on the USS Fantasy in the Tonkin Gulf.