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View Poll Results: Fox News for the most part "Fair and balanced"
Fair and balanced news spoken like it is 14 32.56%
Right of center 29 67.44%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-15-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
VA Democrat Declares War on Tea Party, NRA and Fox News. Wow, what is so bad about wanting this:

1. Constitutionally Limited Government
2. Personal Freedom and Your Rights
3. Free Market Economics
4. Economic Freedom to Grow Jobs and Your Opportunities
5. Fiscal Responsibility or very simply,
6. A Debt Free Future For You and Generations To Come
7. Lower Taxes
Translations:
1. Constitutionally Limited Government = Stop Congress from regulating big business and the environment
2. Personal Freedom and Your Rights = Government can't stop me from doing what I want, no matter how destructive to society as a whole.
3. Free Market Economics = let corporations pollute as much as they want; don't restrain Wall St. or oil companies.
4. Economic Freedom to Grow Jobs and Your Opportunities = let market forces lower wages for the average person
5. Fiscal Responsibility or very simply = slash programs for "those people."
6. A Debt Free Future For You and Generations To Come = slash programs for most to give tax breaks for the few
7. Lower Taxes = "slash taxes on the wealthy

Modern conservatism uses the smoke-screen of self-reliance, individualism and character to mask policies which are self-serving, bigoted and cruel. The cadre of conservative billionaires don't want to pay higher taxes that will be used to help "those people." Thus, they invent a myth that the best way to help the poor is to NOT provide them any help at all. This way, according to them, their misery will give the poor the incentive to become educated and industrious. This has never worked in all of human history.

Their real objective is to keep taxes on the rich low and keep government out of their hair. But these people's numbers are small, so they need to fund propaganda groups like the Heritage Foundation to create false data and spread the message to middle-class conservatives, who are generally stupid enough to swallow their lies. Thus the pro-life conservative-leaning worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically.

Last edited by MTAtech; 04-15-2014 at 11:48 AM..

 
Old 04-15-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
Can you provide fact and proof of this ? You sound like Obama , always blaming the other party no matter what lol. Man up
The proof (which you really don't want to hear) is not on Faux News or the mainstream "liberal" media as you like to call it (what a joke ). Maybe you should try doing your own homework instead of relying on the propaganda arm of the republicon party for "information".

BTW, who always blames the "other party no matter what"? Faux News, their dittoheads on this forum, and repubs do. Know what "hypocrisy" is? I know that con-servatives have no clue, so here it is.
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety.

You might "man up" yourself!
 
Old 04-15-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by kidkaos2 View Post
Uh, no. Fox news is telling the truth on this stuff. It's the liberal outlets who are spinning it. For example, a "jobs bill' is just more government spending. Just because they title something a "jobs" bill doesn't make it a jobs bill. So Fox will simply report the facts - Democrats want to increase spending, and Republicans are trying to block it. MSNBC will spin that as Democrats want to create jobs and Republicans want to send them overseas.

You have to hire people to serve as soldiers and hire people to build tanks and guns. So why is it that Democrats want to lower military spending? Are they trying to put people out of work? Why hasn't the liberal media done reporting against the Democrats for wanting to put all those people out of work? Your own logic works against you there.

Please allow people to answer your question before you announce that they have no clue. All that does is point out how purely partisan you are and not actually interested in real discussion.

Here's merely one example - Democrats required a "medallion" in order to operate a taxi in Washington DC. Medallions could cost upwards of a million dollars to obtain. Independent taxi drivers and small taxi cab companies could not afford that, so they were driven out of business.

Nor did you provide any information either. So you're guilty of exactly what you're accusing the other person of doing. But in addition to that, you've come off with an arrogant and insulting attitude as well.

Being obstructionist is what Republicans are supposed to do. There is a reason we don't simply have an emperor in our nation. The function of the minority party is to put checks on the majority party. Our entire nation is founded on checks and balances. You show an astonishing lack of critical thinking and a high level of partisan vitriol for someone who is accusing others of those very same things.
What a right-wing crock. The dittohead ignorance is strong here - nothing but a tantrum with nothing behind it. No clue whatsoever. Arrogant and insulting is the entire right-wing personified.
You grow the military to create jobs? Really?
Congress should not create jobs legislation? Really?
Jobs bills should be sabotaged by repubs? Really?
Obama is somehow responsible and congressional repubs bear no responsibility to do anything but obstruct? Really?
Also, I refuse to do all your homework for you just because you are snug and smug in the Fox bubble - and don't want to lift a finger on your own.

No, obstructionism is not what repubs are supposed to do. They do it because they are neanderthals with no ideas, yet they want Obama to fail - so how do they accomplish this? For one thing, they create Fox, a corporate fascist media which attempts to convince Americans that trickle-down and a corporate plutocracy is good for them. They cannot make Obama and democrats fail on the basis of their own better ideas, so they obstruct and sabotage anything that might be popular with middle-class Americans (they must counter those messy elections which democrats tend too often to win). Then in the complicit corporate media they get McConnell and Boehner etal to blame Obama for "not cooperating". What a sorry spectacle!

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Old 04-15-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
9,282 posts, read 6,743,397 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
Translations:
1. Constitutionally Limited Government = Stop Congress from regulating big business and the environment
2. Personal Freedom and Your Rights = Government can't stop me from doing what I want, no matter how destructive to society as a whole.
3. Free Market Economics = let corporations pollute as much as they want; don't restrain Wall St. or oil companies.
4. Economic Freedom to Grow Jobs and Your Opportunities = let market forces lower wages for the average person
5. Fiscal Responsibility or very simply = slash programs for "those people."
6. A Debt Free Future For You and Generations To Come = slash programs for most to give tax breaks for the few
7. Lower Taxes = "slash taxes on the wealthy

Modern conservatism uses the smoke-screen of self-reliance, individualism and character to mask policies which are self-serving, bigoted and cruel. The cadre of conservative billionaires don't want to pay higher taxes that will be used to help "those people." Thus, they invent a myth that the best way to help the poor is to NOT provide them any help at all. This way, according to them, their misery will give the poor the incentive to become educated and industrious. This has never worked in all of human history.

Their real objective is to keep taxes on the rich low and keep government out of their hair. But these people's numbers are small, so they need to fund propaganda groups like the Heritage Foundation to create false data and spread the message to middle-class conservatives, who are generally stupid enough to swallow their lies. Thus the pro-life conservative-leaning worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically.
What does that make leftist then?

It ok, you have to change the subject, ignore and distract from your failures...The failure is not look that good for you.. Obamacare failing apart, amnesty for your 30,000,000 new entitlement voters will never happen, Cap and Trade is KIA....Its ok 2014 and 2016 will be a great site to see, Good ahead scream racism, bigotry, demonize self-reliance, individualism and character and the great wonders they have created....Roar like the Dinosaurs you are the light of the coming Asteroid.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gunlover View Post
What does that make leftist then?

It ok, you have to change the subject, ignore and distract from your failures...The failure is not look that good for you.. Obamacare failing apart, amnesty for your 30,000,000 new entitlement voters will never happen, Cap and Trade is KIA....Its ok 2014 and 2016 will be a great site to see, Good ahead scream racism, bigotry, demonize self-reliance, individualism and character and the great wonders they have created....Roar like the Dinosaurs you are the light of the coming Asteroid.
** Only on Fox News is Obamacare "falling apart", so you obviously must parrot that sentiment.
** Regressive anti-gay, anti-worker, anti-democracy, anti-everything, pro-plutocracy conservatives with no ideas except what they don't like, are the real dinosaurs.
** Conservatives believe in belligerent war-for-profit, lower-class casualties be damned. This is proven.
** Conservatives believe that bellowing chest-beating jingoism and Bible-thumping is "patriotism".
** When they had the power, repubs never did anything about illegal immigration because they wanted to keep the issue around to bash democrats with. Notice the sudden "outrage" only after the election of Obama.
** Conservatives love welfare for the rich, and they believe "self-reliance" and "bootstrapping" is only for the lower classes. Their heroes are inheritance babies like Romney, Trump, and the Koch brothers.
** "Individualism" means conforming to a cruel and narrow ideology like Ayn Rand Objectivism.
** Right-wing "Freedom" means the freedom to clamp down on the rights of others they don't like, like the "freedom" to ban gay marriage. Remember the "permissive" (meaning "too much freedom") liberal? You can't have it both ways.

Some definitions
Conservative:
* Favouring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
* favouring the preservation of established customs, values, etc, and opposing innovation
* a person who is reluctant to change or consider new ideas; conformist

.
Liberal: (all the stuff conservatives hate)
*Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
* Favouring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
* (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform
* (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom
* giving and generous in temperament or behaviour
* tolerant of other people


This is from a real dictionary, so go ahead and indulge yourself in the Fox, Hannity, and Limbaugh twisted definitions. How pathetic.
 
Old 04-15-2014, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
9,282 posts, read 6,743,397 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
** Only on Fox News is Obamacare "falling apart", so you obviously must parrot that sentiment.
** Regressive anti-gay, anti-worker, anti-democracy, anti-everything, pro-plutocracy conservatives with no ideas except what they don't like, are the real dinosaurs.
** Conservatives believe in belligerent war-for-profit, lower-class casualties be damned. This is proven.
** Conservatives believe that bellowing chest-beating jingoism and Bible-thumping is "patriotism".
** When they had the power, repubs never did anything about illegal immigration because they wanted to keep the issue around to bash democrats with. Notice the sudden "outrage" only after the election of Obama.
** Conservatives love welfare for the rich, and they believe "self-reliance" and "bootstrapping" is only for the lower classes. Their heroes are inheritance babies like Romney, Trump, and the Koch brothers.
** "Individualism" means conforming to a cruel and narrow ideology like Ayn Rand Objectivism.
** Right-wing "Freedom" means the freedom to clamp down on the rights of others they don't like, like the "freedom" to ban gay marriage. Remember the "permissive" (meaning "too much freedom") liberal? You can't have it both ways.

Some definitions
Conservative:
* Favouring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
* favouring the preservation of established customs, values, etc, and opposing innovation
* a person who is reluctant to change or consider new ideas; conformist

.

Liberal: (all the stuff conservatives hate)
*Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

Oh come now, you leftist are the most bigoted group second only to radical Islam..

Not authoritarian? Are you kidding me? Everything I hate should be banned, everything I like should be a mandate.


* Favouring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded
* (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform
* (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom

Really advocating indiviadual freedom? What about taxes, or personal property rights, or gun rights, yes you are all advocates and defends of liberty aren't you?

* giving and generous in temperament or behaviour
* tolerant of other people



How is replicating failed left wing project and programs progress?.

This is from a real dictionary, so go ahead and indulge yourself in the Fox, Hannity, and Limbaugh twisted definitions. How pathetic.


I have plans tonight will tackle the cluster cluck tomorrow.

It is fun to see how you leftist think...I mean we should study you from far...but fun non the less..
 
Old 04-16-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Originally Posted by gunlover View Post
I have plans tonight will tackle the cluster cluck tomorrow.

It is fun to see how you leftist think...I mean we should study you from far...but fun non the less..
What a typical dittohead knee-jerk response when truth rears its ugly head. Amazing how y'all just adopt whatever Fox tells you.
Here's a wake-up for you - dictionaries and encyclopedias are correct and Fox "News" rewrite of history, science, and definitions is wrong. Believe it.
.

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Old 04-28-2014, 05:01 AM
 
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Default Beyond the white noise, Fox News is "fair and balanced"

It's not like they can lie about what they are saying in the politically correct a society.
 
Old 04-28-2014, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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And yet they constantly do.
 
Old 04-28-2014, 05:13 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Think4Yourself View Post
And yet they constantly do.
Proof? Pleas provide some examples, and state what you think to be the truth, why you think it is the truth, and your source.
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