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Old 03-26-2013, 01:56 PM
 
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Nice thread and discussion.

I suppose the McCall quote shares the view of many Oregonians. Let's face it, Oregon has about 4 million folks and California has 40 million. California scares us to death. Legions of folks roll in with money we can never make here, and buy up everything. That is why we like our public lands. Can't buy those. We are misanthropes, but we are not alone. Coloradoans fear being overrun by Texans. Vermonters fear M*******s and New Yorkers, etc. The main wealth we have is our land and scenery, and we don't want it ruined by hordes of urban expats in Range Rovers. So understandable, but the quote is hypocritical and rude.

All the same, McCall's attitude and background show some common origins. Most environmentalists come from priviledge, and their concern is a blend of real appreciation for nature in an aesthetic sense and a healthy dose of NIMBYism. That said, it works. I would put the physical beauty of Oregon up against a "right to develop" state like Texas or Oklahoma anytime. Public lands add a lot to one's experience in living in an area. The fact that a Republican could say that without being branded a RINO points to the fact that the GOP was a bigger tent then than now.
Well, I can't help but feel offended because I'm not from Oregon. I used to live in the state of Washington for a time, and then moved to Georgia. I live in Georgia and there are alot of people from Ohio, California, Illinois, New Jersey, Florida, Michigan, and other states. I don't mind one bit. I feel like they have brought some contributions and made it a better state. As for Oregon's case, I'm not a misanthrope. I take stuff personal because I never really had the feeling of "home town". I think differently.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Well, I can't help but feel offended because I'm not from Oregon. I used to live in the state of Washington for a time, and then moved to Georgia. I live in Georgia and there are alot of people from Ohio, California, Illinois, New Jersey, Florida, Michigan, and other states. I don't mind one bit. I feel like they have brought some contributions and made it a better state. As for Oregon's case, I'm not a misanthrope. I take stuff personal because I never really had the feeling of "home town". I think differently.
I say screw them (or us-I'm an Oregonian). Move here when you get a job, and ignore them. Most Oregonians are form somewhere else, so they don't really care much, if at all. They just say stuff to scare off the timid. Don't be timid.

I wish we were a bit more friendly here. Southerners are more gracious, I think.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Would this be the GOP that want to axe the EPA, say "screw global warming," and "drill baby drill?"

I have a feeling McCall would not have agreed with you.
Yawn.

The GOP created the EPA and have expanded several times.

There is no proof of global warming should so why should we base public policy on it.

And wha't wrong with drilling oil? It's been working great for decades. Do we wanna go back to life in the 1800s?

You got anything besides silly little talking points? Maybe you shpuld stop watching so much MSNBC and pay attention to reality.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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I say screw them (or us-I'm an Oregonian). Move here when you get a job, and ignore them. Most Oregonians are form somewhere else, so they don't really care much, if at all. They just say stuff to scare off the timid. Don't be timid.

I wish we were a bit more friendly here. Southerners are more gracious, I think.
I've ran into some ungracious southerners. I'm looking for jobs all over the country. I've applied to a few jobs around the Portland area.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:08 PM
 
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I've ran into some ungracious southerners. I'm looking for jobs all over the country. I've applied to a few jobs around the Portland area.
Good luck to you!
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Yawn.

The GOP created the EPA and have expanded several times.

There is no proof of global warming should so why should we base public policy on it.

And wha't wrong with drilling oil? It's been working great for decades. Do we wanna go back to life in the 1800s?

You got anything besides silly little talking points? Maybe you shpuld stop watching so much MSNBC and pay attention to reality.
The bolded is precisely my point. THIS GOP would never do that. Protecting the environment is one of the most conservative of ideals, but modern republicans prefer to bow at the altar or St. Limbaugh.

Your second sentence states how far you folks have fallen from the ranks of the rational.
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