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Old 04-10-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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hahaha..........most of us smokers are here are not going to die before you do just for spite........
I'm a smoker myself. I know it will shorten my life. I'm OK with it. I work in a nursing home. I'd rather die of smoking than to end up with dementia, not recognising my family and having someone change my diapers.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:28 PM
 
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Who learned not to do all those things? Many still do is my point. Children aren't born with "low wieght" or fetal alcohol syndrome anymore? I didn't know that. Now they are born addicted to crack too. Good thing the ethical police are out stopping that. lol
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I wouldn't consider you a zealot for supporting smoking bans in publicly or government owned places. However, you would be one if you supported smoking bans in privately owned places.

This!!! It should be up to the business owner as to whether he wants it or not. If he loses money from non-smokers refusing to patronize his business, then perhaps he will change his policy. No government legislation is necessary! A sign stating that the business allows smoking and enter at your own risk would suffice.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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I even rode my bicycle in the middle of the road without a helmet, knee pads and elbow pads on as well. Then there were all those times I was running around the timber with nothing but short and a top on and no shoes. We also used to be around medication that had NO CHILD SAFETY LOCK on the bottles and we never got into that stuff either, we were TAUGHT not to get into that stuff. Amazing those of us who are older are still alive and smoking.
You know every time I open a bottle of whatever up and have to pry off all the crap I get pissed off at that Tylenol arsehole who poisoned those things back in the day. That son of a beech has made everybody's lives more difficult!!!

Hell we used to ride our bikes right behind the skeeter sprayer every night sucking in the DDT. lol
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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Who learned not to do all those things? Many still do is my point. Children aren't born with "low wieght" or fetal alcohol syndrome anymore? I didn't know that. Now they are born addicted to crack too. Good thing the ethical police are out stopping that. lol
I never said we eliminated the problem. The point is that we now know those things are harmful, and there have been educational efforts made to prevent them.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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No, you said companies put bleach in their foods. That's what you said. You clearly don't know the difference, which is why it's difficult discussing something like smoking with you. You aren't entitled to your own facts.
Yes, I said they put bleach in their food. I never said they used the same chemicals as people use to whiten clothes. That's your fantasy. I clearly do know the difference. I also know white bread is bleached.

So tell me one fact that I mis-posted.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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While I appreciate you keeping up on your opinion, I have to disagree with you on this one. A felony may seem strong, but as a child I was constantly in and out of the doctors for tonsilitis, strept throat, bronchitis, I missed a lot of school (proven by the fact that I'm sure I mis-spelled some of those itis's )
It wasn't until I was much older and went back to a doctor that I was diagnosed with "allergic-like" reaction to secondary smoke, that was extreme with me. I was told that I probably had that my whole life, and easilly explained why I was always sick when I was a kid.

Now, at the risk of sounding like a "zealot" but asking a very genuine question, do you see that big of a difference between two parents driving down the road in a car smoking and filling their children's lungs with something that's known to be dangerous to their health and doing something else that would be considered abusive?

There are lots of things parents do that I disagree with too and might be harmful to the children's health. But that doesn't make it the government's job to police them.

Just driving down the road is dangerous. Thousands of people get killed every year driving down the road. Feeding your kids soft drinks is dangerous. Feeding your kids fatty fast foods is dangerous and causes heart disease which is the leading cause of death in the USA. etc, etc.

And the whole second hand smoke thing is way overblown. In fact, other than extreme cases, there is no danger from second hand smoke.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Sorry, friend, but you seem to be unaware that non-smokers have been bearing the burden of smoker's health care cost forever -- it's called "premiums" and they include all the insurer's expenses, regardless of the cause. Most mortality causes are life-style choices. Yes, gluttony, smoking, drinking, unsafe sex -- it's all in there.

We don't choose not to smoke to save money. We choose not to smoke because smoking is stupid.
Why do you think I was unaware? I've worked in the industry for many years and know all about pricing.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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That absolutely should be illegal. Children don't have the choice or ability to get out of the car or not ride with that parent. It should be a felony.

So, then you'll raise those children while the parent is doing time, right?
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I even rode my bicycle in the middle of the road without a helmet, knee pads and elbow pads on as well. Then there were all those times I was running around the timber with nothing but short and a top on and no shoes. We also used to be around medication that had NO CHILD SAFETY LOCK on the bottles and we never got into that stuff either, we were TAUGHT not to get into that stuff. Amazing those of us who are older are still alive and smoking.
Yes, those were the good old days. we even rode three up on a small bike... one on the handle bars. We learned to take risks and survive. Today, between the government and spineless parents, kids avoid all risk and then wonder why they grow up to be lemmings rather than entrepreneurs .

I'm sure the government and the do gooders would go postal if they saw a kid riding on the handle bars today.
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