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Old 04-11-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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Just thank your lucky stars that you were ever here despite the tremendous odds against it.
Well, ironically if you think about it we wouldn't know we weren't here if we didn't exist and given the near infinite nature of space the odds were a virtual guarantee of it occurring.

We might have won the lottery, but when you buy a trillion trillion trillion tickets....

We are just a flea fart in the cosmos and yeah, eventually human life on earth will end and that will be looooong before our sun goes supernova.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Basically, aren't we facing the same risks if we go to another planet? Asteroids, gamma ray bursts, solar flares, hostile aliens etc., are not endemic to just one solar system. And considering what we're doing to our planet now in terms of pollution and stripping it of it's natural resources, whose to say we won't ruin another planet?
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:27 AM
 
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The human species will be long gone before we have the technology to colonize anything in space. Humans need to stop their grandiose, egotistical gum flapping. We are products of stardust and happened by chance. We are nothing in the grand scheme of cosmology, we are dust particles. NO species lives forever and that also included humans. Also, humans will NEVER understand everything there is to know about the universe, it's impossible for us to know. Our brains aren't big enough nor smart enough.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: The Internet
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At the current doubling rate (around 50 years), human population growth can only be accommodated by humanity expanding into the solar system, via colonization.

In 3000 A.D. the population might be:
6,215,137,688,590,950.
6.2 quadrillion.

In 4000 A.D.
Population : 6.517 E+21 (6.517 x 10^21), 6.517 billion trillion people
6,517,000,000,000,000,000,000
931,000,000,000 times as many people as existed in 2012 A.D. (7+ billion)
Thanks for bringing this up. If asteroids, comets, extreme cosmic radiation, solar expansion or human activities don't do us in first, then certainly over-population will. So whether most people realize it or not, space colonization must be made a reality to ensure the survival of the human race.

Mars is the best candidate due to relatively close location to Earth, the presence of water ice, stable surface, and it's nice to know that on a hot Summer Martian day at the equator, the temperature can be 70 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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I understand that, but I'm just not sure what the point was.
Because the libs make it a career of bawling about Bush.
You can move on now.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Basically, aren't we facing the same risks if we go to another planet? Asteroids, gamma ray bursts, solar flares, hostile aliens etc., are not endemic to just one solar system. And considering what we're doing to our planet now in terms of pollution and stripping it of it's natural resources, whose to say we won't ruin another planet?

We'll probably continue to ruin planets, and yes we would face the same risks, but at least there is some sort of contingency plan to be able to move if an asteroid (for instance) is heading our way. Right now we have no other way out.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Basically, aren't we facing the same risks if we go to another planet? Asteroids, gamma ray bursts, solar flares, hostile aliens etc., are not endemic to just one solar system. And considering what we're doing to our planet now in terms of pollution and stripping it of it's natural resources, whose to say we won't ruin another planet?
Pollution and extrusion of natural resources may dampen quality of living but will not be extinction level events. That's just too much "Day After Tomorrow" schmaltz.

You then need to factor in scope and time.

For example, if you are spread out of 3 different planets and an asteroid wipes people out one....the other planets can re-colonize over 10k years etc. You can't do that if you are solely on one planet.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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Mars is the best candidate due to relatively close location to Earth, the presence of water ice, stable surface, and it's nice to know that on a hot Summer Martian day at the equator, the temperature can be 70 degrees Fahrenheit.
Space colonization is not limited to other celestial bodies.
In fact, after climbing out of Earth's gravity well, it might not be a good idea to go "down".
The potential Mars offers is insignificant to the expansion room of the solar system, with respect to self-sufficient orbital habitats.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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The only restriction to fanciful ideas is money. Do you really think the elites escaping earth are wanna take dead weight with them.
Actually, the belief in the "restriction" of money is a symptom of money madness.

It is true that space colonization will take the cooperative efforts of many, but to limit it to those who possess money tokens is ludicrous.

Prosperity is not based on wealth nor money.
Prosperity is the production, trade and enjoyment of surplus usable goods and services. Those who are prodigious producers and can devote surplus to the task will achieve their goals, regardless of money.

And harnessing that nearby fusion reactor, and celestial resources, is an engineering question, not a financial one. Whoever builds the first autonomous self replicating robotic fabricator, and attaches it to a passing asteroid, will start the process of building the tools, that build the tools that build the hulls and habitats.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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Obviously this is all Bush's fault
Some idiots are such politically-obsessed partisans that they'll turn anything into a sniveling, whining grinding of the axe.
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