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Old 05-14-2013, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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After nine investigations, there is no evidence of any kind of coverup. You see, Issa proceeds from the position that a scandal exists and his objective is to prove it. This is the guy who in December 2010 told the Politico, "I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks."

The Chicago Tribune said, "The scale and scope of Issa's post-election remarks sound like he's in danger of overreaching."
What are you actually reading? There has been plenty of evidence of cover-up, from the timing of telling the media that this was over a video when they knew it was a terrorist attack to the editing of the briefings 12 times to remove references to terrorism.

Take the blinders off and come along with the rest of us. Seriously!

 
Old 05-14-2013, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Benghazi is unimportant.

It is miniscule with all that is happening in the world.

Why would Obama even dignify its existence?
That isn't the thing that will force him from office but this is

“He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavored to . . . cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.”

— Article II, Section 1, Articles of Impeachment against Richard M. Nixon, adopted by the House Judiciary Committee, July 29, 1974

George Will nailed it when he said "Jay Carney, whose unenviable job is not to explain but to explain away what his employers say, calls the IRS’s behavior "inappropriate.” No, using the salad fork for the entree is inappropriate. Using the Internal Revenue Service for political purposes is a criminal offense."

He needs to go to jail.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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Yeah, except there has been no evidence or even an insinuation that Obama directed the IRS to investigate these groups. Nice try, though.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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What are you actually reading? There has been plenty of evidence of cover-up, from the timing of telling the media that this was over a video when they knew it was a terrorist attack to the editing of the briefings 12 times to remove references to terrorism.

Take the blinders off and come along with the rest of us. Seriously!
For something to be a coverup, there has to be something that got covered up. There isn't anything like that.

What have you got? After the attack, the President said the next day that it was an act of terror. There was also speculation it was caused by that video. Some people got that wrong. So, they were wrong. Kill their first born because of that error.

In forming the report, they word-smithed the document. Again, so what? After nine Congressional investigations the most damning charge is that they edited a Word document. That sounds impeachable, not.

What, exactly, was covered up?
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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In forming the report, they word-smithed the document. Again, so what?

What, exactly, was covered up?
"Buh, buh, butt....Benghazi... Muslims...0bama! Durrrrr..."
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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That isn't the thing that will force him from office but this is

“He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavored to . . . cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be initiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.”

— Article II, Section 1, Articles of Impeachment against Richard M. Nixon, adopted by the House Judiciary Committee, July 29, 1974

George Will nailed it when he said "Jay Carney, whose unenviable job is not to explain but to explain away what his employers say, calls the IRS’s behavior "inappropriate.” No, using the salad fork for the entree is inappropriate. Using the Internal Revenue Service for political purposes is a criminal offense."

He needs to go to jail.
Richard Nixon directed the IRS to go after specific enemies of his. President Obama did no such thing as there is no evidence he even knew it was going on.

Moreover, the Internal Revenue Service, whose head is a Bush appointee, is absolutely correct to look into the abuse of the tax code by political organizations masquerading as “social welfare” groups. I would contend that most of those groups are on the right of the political spectrum.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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Richard Nixon directed the IRS to go after specific enemies of his. President Obama did no such thing as there is no evidence he even knew it was going on.

Moreover, the Internal Revenue Service, whose head is a Bush appointee, is absolutely correct to look into the abuse of the tax code by political organizations masquerading as “social welfare” groups. I would contend that most of those groups are on the right of the political spectrum.
This just broke. Time for a complete full investigation to find all involved.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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I hate to break it to you, but I would bet that there are thousands of facilities that are vulnerable if attacked by mortar. Being the "Greatest country on earth" doesn't prevent us from being attacked. Nor will the United States be able to prevent all attacks. They were not left to die on their own; evacuation plans were begun and the facilities were evacuated within 12 hours of the initial attack.
Sorry pal, but waiting for 12 freaking hours before finally deciding to start evacuating the dead and wounded is not a plan.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
Richard Nixon directed the IRS to go after specific enemies of his. President Obama did no such thing as there is no evidence he even knew it was going on.

Moreover, the Internal Revenue Service, whose head is a Bush appointee, is absolutely correct to look into the abuse of the tax code by political organizations masquerading as “social welfare” groups. I would contend that most of those groups are on the right of the political spectrum.
There's no evidence that he knows anything that's going on, of course until the newspapers tell him.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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Richard Nixon directed the IRS to go after specific enemies of his. President Obama did no such thing as there is no evidence he even knew it was going on.

Moreover, the Internal Revenue Service, whose head is a Bush appointee, is absolutely correct to look into the abuse of the tax code by political organizations masquerading as “social welfare” groups. I would contend that most of those groups are on the right of the political spectrum.
Scandal after scandal, Obama always claims to not know anything about it until its reported. From Fast/Furious to Benghazi to IRS to DOJ wire tapping......"Uh I just found out last Friday when I saw it in the news. My Admin doesnt discuss much with me..."

Perhaps he knows, or perhaps his henchmen know better to just do the dirty work for him, and not give him updates on it. Either way, this Administration is corrupt to the core. We have Chicago style politics in DC.

And how much of a shame is it that whistle blowers are no longer protected anymore. I believe they used to be, but not they literally risk everything. Our government corruption has blown up a thousands times and its getting worse and worse because its harder to take the government on. Those who may want to expose and show the truth have to weigh if its worth the risk for them personally.
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