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Old 04-26-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Nor is Georgia doing well:

The percentage of Georgians living in poverty in 2011 is among the highest in the United States, according to analysis of U.S. Census Bureau figures-- 19.1 of individuals in Georgia fell below the poverty line -- sixth-worst in America.

Child poverty rate: 26%
Senior poverty rate: 13%
Women in poverty: 20%
Percent of single-parent families with related children that are below poverty: 40%

Unemployment rate: 10.1%

Minimum Wage: $5.15
Percent of jobs that are low-wage: 26.7%
Percent of individuals who are uninsured: 20%

Teen birth rate per 1,000: 41.4
Children living in single parent families: 38%

High school graduation rate: 67.8%

Total incarcerated (prison and jail): 56,432

Adults and children receiving welfare (TANF): 36,657
Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 770,000
EITC recipients: 1,080,000

Spotlight on Poverty and Opportunity
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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The federal min wage is higher than $5.15.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Texas is not doing that well. According to Census Bureau data:

Almost one in five (18.5%) Texans lives below the poverty level.

Over one in four (26.6%) children in Texas lived in poverty.

One in five Texans in urban areas was poor, and one in eight in rural areas.

Texas is home to four of the five of the poorest metropolitan areas in the country.

The poorest place to live in the United States is in the Mc-Allen-Edinburg-Mission area.

The gap between the rich and the poor is 7th highest in the nation.

While the number of wealthy households grew in 2011, an even greater number saw their earnings fall to the lowest levels. Overall, Texas households saw their incomes shrink, with median income falling 1.2% to $49,392.

Texas also has THE highest rate of child abuse and neglect in the country, and the highest rate of deaths due to child abuse in the country.

Poverty in Texas: Our Responsibility - TFBN
That median income in Texas goes further than it does in states like California. Same thing with poverty levels - those cutoff points are national numbers and make no consideration for the cost of living.

Please don't compare Texas to MA or CT, two almost completely homogeneous states without much diversity, nor the strains of huge population growth.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Really interesting article from a San Francisco newspaper that compares Texas and California - using some of the same categories Ellemint above uses.

Texas vs. California - myth-busting time - SFGate

A highlight - that article says 23.5% of California residents actually live in poverty, compared to 16.3% for Texas.

They also note that CA's "residents with a diploma" rate is barely better than Mississippi. Texas is worse. But not by much. And Texas' high school graduation rate is higher, both overall, and for Hispanics.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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Nighttrain, did you read the article? Talking about of those 10 red states, which ones have Dem Governors, a Dem majority in the legislature and implemented Dem policies? Let's be honest here. No state is perfect, so to post this data or that data or the successes or failures of a state is foolish. You're not getting an answer to your question because no state is completely controlled by one party or another for extended periods of time, and all states have areas where they are weak and where they are strong.

In fact, here's a quote from the article:

"The Democratic case is illusory and circumstantial; the Republican case is solid and substantial. However, in a country where so many people are economically and historically illiterate, combined with the human proclivity whereby “a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest†(Paul Simon, “The Boxerâ€), the Democrats may be able to score some points with a hollow argument. The Republicans, though, have the facts on their side."

Here's another quote:

"Let’s examine the 10 poorest states to see if Republicans are to blame for their relative economic standing.

The poorest states, based on per capita income, are, from first to last: Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Montana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, and North Carolina. Of these, exactly half—Arkansas, Kentucky, Montana, North Carolina, and West Virginia—have Democratic governors and three have Democratic majorities in the lower house of their legislature, so these state governments can hardly be classified as completely Republican. On the other hand, only North Carolina voted for Obama in 2008, so in that sense, these states may be leaning Republican."

Finally, as usual, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Here's one last quote:

"If Republican policies have led to the economic stagnation of entire states, whereas Democrats are only responsible for ruining cities, then the Dems might have the stronger campaign talking point."

The part in bold is really what it's all about, isn 't it.

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ok, I can counter, poorest states, top 10, all red states.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Texas is not doing that well. According to Census Bureau data:
According to the BLS TX is tied at 18 with MA in unemployment.

Unemployment Rates for States

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Almost one in five (18.5%) Texans lives below the poverty level.
Texas also has alot of illegal immigrants that become eligible for aid when they get pregnant.

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Over one in four (26.6%) children in Texas lived in poverty.
Without comparing the cost of living to the salary the poverty level doesn't tell you anything.

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One in five Texans in urban areas was poor, and one in eight in rural areas.
How does that compare to other states?

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Texas is home to four of the five of the poorest metropolitan areas in the country.
Source? Dallas and Houston are quite wealthy.

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The poorest place to live in the United States is in the Mc-Allen-Edinburg-Mission area.
That is less than 30 minutes from Mexico.

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The gap between the rich and the poor is 7th highest in the nation.
Illegal immigrants don't come with money, they come for money.

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While the number of wealthy households grew in 2011, an even greater number saw their earnings fall to the lowest levels. Overall, Texas households saw their incomes shrink, with median income falling 1.2% to $49,392.
That isn't unique to TX. I think the average decline was 5%-10%.

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Texas also has THE highest rate of child abuse and neglect in the country, and the highest rate of deaths due to child abuse in the country.
Relevance?
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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I'll play. The South is kicking ass in job growth. Number one region in the country, and it isn't even close:

South +889,000

West +632,000

Midwest +390,300

Northeast +256,300

Texas (+355,600) by itself if beating the entire Northeast and almost tied the entire midwest.

The Midwest and the Northeast combined created hundreds and thousands less jobs than the South did by itself.

Here are the cities with the highest job growth over the past year:
1 - Provo-Orem - 10,100 (5.4%)
2 - Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown - 118,700 (4.5%)
3 - Salt Lake City - 26,200 (4.2%)
4 - Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos - 32,200 (4.0%)
5 - Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin - 30,000 (3.9%)
6 - Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington - 108,900 (3.7%)
7 - Louisville-Jefferson County - 20,700 (3.5%)
8 - San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara - 28,000 (3.2%)
9 - San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont - 59,400 (3.1%)
10 - Denver-Aurora-Broomfield - 37,500 (3.1%)

The top 7 are in conservative states. 8, 9 in Dem. states and 10 in a swing state.

Source- straight from the federal government: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/metro.t03.htm
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Nor is Georgia doing well:

The percentage of Georgians living in poverty in 2011 is among the highest in the United States, according to analysis of U.S. Census Bureau figures-- 19.1 of individuals in Georgia fell below the poverty line -- sixth-worst in America.

Child poverty rate: 26%
Senior poverty rate: 13%
Women in poverty: 20%
Percent of single-parent families with related children that are below poverty: 40%

Unemployment rate: 10.1%

Minimum Wage: $5.15
Percent of jobs that are low-wage: 26.7%
Percent of individuals who are uninsured: 20%

Teen birth rate per 1,000: 41.4
Children living in single parent families: 38%

High school graduation rate: 67.8%

Total incarcerated (prison and jail): 56,432

Adults and children receiving welfare (TANF): 36,657
Children receiving food stamps (SNAP): 770,000
EITC recipients: 1,080,000

Spotlight on Poverty and Opportunity
Where are you getting this data? The FEDERAL minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, the state can't make a minimum wage lower than that.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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That Texas has the nation's highest rates of child abuse and neglect, and deaths due to child abuse is relevant because it is an indication of the well-being of children and families in Texas, and the support services available to families.

Many Republican governments have cut back on mental health resources and social services for children and families----Texas's high rate of child abuse and neglect, which is one of the highest in the world indicates the failure of conservative policies to protect the most vulnerable residents of Texas.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:14 PM
 
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That Texas has the nation's highest rates of child abuse and neglect, and deaths due to child abuse is relevant because it is an indication of the well-being of children and families in Texas, and the support services available to families.

Many Republican governments have cut back on mental health resources and social services for children and families----Texas's high rate of child abuse and neglect, which is one of the highest in the world indicates the failure of conservative policies to protect the most vulnerable residents of Texas.
You could probably make an argument that TX child services don't intervene soon enough and by not intervening the situation escalates. You would have to have supporting facts to make that case. I'm not aware of any difference between child services in IL, TX, CA or NY.

The child abuse ratings don't have anything to do with conservative or liberal policies. The cases are obviously getting reported and handled. Otherwise, nobody would know what the ranking is.

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