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Obama supporters don't have the financial education to understand the difference between wealth and high income. When Obama went after "the rich" he went after people who are high income, people who are unable to make moves like the rich. These are typically doctors, small business owners, etc while yes, they make more money they are not wealthy.
The truly rich (wealthy) understand that taxes will make you poor and they will adjust accordingly and that is why you hear of them paying less in taxes than a secretary.
Obama lied to the American people and grouped high income earners in with bankers and big corporations then used people who are not financially educated. He also used people who are jealous of others who are doing better. He used the financial illiterates and jealous for his class warfare to get more in tax revenue. He is still doing it.
By doing this, he hurt the little guy. He also made it harder for someone in the middle class to move up and achieve the American dream. The truly rich are getting richer under Obama.
The following 3 minute youtube link, with B. Obama, Warren Buffet, and W. Buffets secretary (clearly shows that you are posting lies.)
Liberal European countries like Germany and England outperform America.
They have smaller nation debts, less poverty, they live longer, take longer vacations, are cleaner, ex.ex.
yes they have smaller populations, and not as much 3rd world immigration. And Europe is not America, in America we value freedom and liberty above all else.. we never should trade liberty for the myth and state back lie of security.
Canada, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway right off the top of my head. Strong economies, lower debt, lower homicide rates, lower infant mortality rates than us. Ans more cost-effective healthcare.
lets see them do that with 3000,000,000 people, you can do anything with just a few million, and this is America, I don't care what they do, if ever nation on earth did something does that make it good, right, or just? just because everyone is doing it does not mean we should, if you love those nations and there state run economies so much, fine, leave us.
The real question is, can we find places with right-wing (I won't grant the term "conservative" here, since US right-wingers are actually quite radical) policies that are doing well?" The US south is a mess of poverty and violence. For all of the howling about shootings in Chicago, the major city with the highest per capita murder rate in the US is New Orleans. Cali finally is on track after the Republicans in the state lost the power to block any and all budget matters. The US under republican rule experienced an unneeded and poorly- managed war in Iraq, a hurricane which saw federal emergency management direct needed resources away from the affected region, and a turn from a federal surplus, into a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit. Meanwhile, the republican controlled House of Representatives refuses to address the ongoing jobs crisis, instead preferring to continually vote for quixotic bills to bar poor people from obtaining access to health care.
For other examples, I suppose we could look to the Middle East, although I've heard that the UNE is pretty nice...
it does not matter what states do, they have to toil and suffer under federal laws, rules, regulations and taxes.
and the right is radical? what about the weather underground? or the black liberation army of the 1960`s and 70`s? what about the rash of bombing in the 60`s 70`s and 80`s?
and the house has offered many ideas, buy with this the statist in office, its either there way or there way, they don't want to solve the problems, that want to blame the other side in order to take power thru a campaign of lies, and disinformation to take unchecked power.
The last two Presidents of Brazil Ignacio Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff are socialists and Brazil is one of emerging BRICS economic powers. India's Congress Party and South Africa's ANC are left of Center. China is a socialist system with authoritarian tendences as is Russia under Putin and his United Russia Party. All of these nations are growing at a rate at least 3 times that of the United States. In fact China will have a bigger economy by the early 2020s.
yes...and those nation don't have issues like we do. they don't have a massive 3rd world immigration, they don't have special interests groups backed by forging nations that work in direct interests of there nations(all paid for by said nations tax payers)
and two, looking of the long sad history of left wing ideas, it will come crashing down sooner then later,
plus South Africa should not be a economical power house any time soon if ever, ever since the Marxist nelson mandala, mass emigration has taken place, a mass brain drain of skilled workers, as well as massive tax hikes, massive spike on black on white crime, followed by such horrific gun laws that prevent people from defending themselves, and there property if a person can not keep the fruits of there labor, why bother in said garden? you wont you will move.
What the **** are you talking about? I was discussing simple math; how can a group paying $400 billion in income taxes get a $660 billion tax cut? ...and from that you come away with supply side economics?
I don't a cr-p what the corporates say, the right has screwed this country and its middle class, and pretending that tax cuts for the wealthy or corporations will "help" the middle class is nonsense. As if cutting taxes any more for Apple sitting on its obscene $150 BB cash hoard while paying cr-p wages to its retail store force or its chinese factory slaves will make the slightest difference.
Right wing Corporates are no better for this country than the left-wing filth opening the flood gates for illegal aliens.
I saw a thread asking this of Conservative policies, and I thought I's ask it of Liberal policies. Are there any places worldwide with liberal policies in place that are thriving? It seems most bigger cities are heavily Liberal, and with them come higher crime rates, more pverty, higher unemployment, etc etc.
Liberalism comes in different forms. I think the right thing for places is to be socially liberal and fiscally somewhat conservative. Ideally for me a city would have strong anti discrimination laws, gay rights, liberal marijuana policies and programs for the youth but most things would be privatized except cops and firefighters. And taxes would be moderate.
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