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Old 04-28-2013, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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yes...and those nation don't have issues like we do. they don't have a massive 3rd world immigration, they don't have special interests groups backed by forging nations that work in direct interests of there nations(all paid for by said nations tax payers)


and two, looking of the long sad history of left wing ideas, it will come crashing down sooner then later,

plus South Africa should not be a economical power house any time soon if ever, ever since the Marxist nelson mandala, mass emigration has taken place, a mass brain drain of skilled workers, as well as massive tax hikes, massive spike on black on white crime, followed by such horrific gun laws that prevent people from defending themselves, and there property if a person can not keep the fruits of there labor, why bother in said garden? you wont you will move.


Brazil has nearly 100 million people living at a subsistence (3rd world level), India has nearly a billion and China has over 800 million such people, to say the USA has a problem integrating betwenn 12-20 million poor people into a rich economy is laughable. In fact why are we doing so badly compared to China or Brazil? For us to have anywhere near the problem that confronts Brazil we would have to extend the US southern border to Panama-Colombia border and assume the job and wealth creation burden for all of the populations of Mexico and CentroAmerica and maybe throw in all all of the Carribean Islands as well.

The 5 million white South Africans have to just get used to living in a South Africa where there are 4 black South Africans for every one of them and also have to get used to the fact that blacks are no longer having to grovel at their feet and say yes massa. If they can't take it they really need to pack their bags and head off to a segregated nation where they can avoid blacks and coloured people like the USA or Australia. By the way the 2010 World Cup was held in South Africa and was a great sucess. As for Mandiba, he doesn't need to be defended by me, he will be remebered by thius world well after mental midgets like Ronald Reagan or George Bush the 1st or 2nd. are forgotten and lost in histories ash heap.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: NC
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Lets put it this way...

The US state that epitomizes liberalism is Massachusetts.

The US state that epitomizes conservatism is Oklahoma.

Which one is doing better?
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:45 PM
 
Location: NC
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Oh yeah, WA is doing great.
State of Washington Debt Clock

Idaho (conservative by any measure) is doing much better.
State of Idaho Debt Clock
It is kind of easy when you get $1.21 of investment for every $1.00 you pay in taxes instead of $.88 for every $1. you pay in taxes.

United States Federal Tax Dollars -

In essence Idaho receives x2 as much money from the federal government per capita as Washington does despite contributing less than 1/4 per capita the amount Washington does. There is a system of Red state socialism the Conservative like to try and mask as local government success.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is kind of easy when you get $1.21 of investment for every $1.00 you pay in taxes instead of $.88 for every $1. you pay in taxes.

United States Federal Tax Dollars -

In essence Idaho receives x2 as much money from the federal government per capita as Washington does despite contributing less than 1/4 per capita the amount Washington does. There is a system of Red state socialism the Conservative like to try and mask as local government success.
And then they try to turn and blame that on the liberals because they are the moocher party.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: NC
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And then they try to turn and blame that on the liberals because they are the moocher party.
Its the Karl Rove strategy attack on your opponents strength and your weakness. Thus why Bush the draft dodger attack Kerry, who volunteered for Vietnam boat patrols, on patriotism and military service.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It is kind of easy when you get $1.21 of investment for every $1.00 you pay in taxes instead of $.88 for every $1. you pay in taxes.

United States Federal Tax Dollars -

In essence Idaho receives x2 as much money from the federal government per capita as Washington does despite contributing less than 1/4 per capita the amount Washington does. There is a system of Red state socialism the Conservative like to try and mask as local government success.
great point...
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Brazil has nearly 100 million people living at a subsistence (3rd world level), India has nearly a billion and China has over 800 million such people, to say the USA has a problem integrating betwenn 12-20 million poor people into a rich economy is laughable. In fact why are we doing so badly compared to China or Brazil? For us to have anywhere near the problem that confronts Brazil we would have to extend the US southern border to Panama-Colombia border and assume the job and wealth creation burden for all of the populations of Mexico and CentroAmerica and maybe throw in all all of the Carribean Islands as well.

The 5 million white South Africans have to just get used to living in a South Africa where there are 4 black South Africans for every one of them and also have to get used to the fact that blacks are no longer having to grovel at their feet and say yes massa. If they can't take it they really need to pack their bags and head off to a segregated nation where they can avoid blacks and coloured people like the USA or Australia. By the way the 2010 World Cup was held in South Africa and was a great sucess. As for Mandiba, he doesn't need to be defended by me, he will be remebered by thius world well after mental midgets like Ronald Reagan or George Bush the 1st or 2nd. are forgotten and lost in histories ash heap.
the cost of those 12-20 million will be far higher then the amount they will pay in.

As for South Africa, hosting a world cup eqauls.....what? The brain and skills drain is past the tipping point fact in high taxes, laws that greatly restict the abilty and natural right of self defence, and sky rocketing race based crime. that nation is crumbling and any person with any sense of self presavation, self intrest, ecomomics, history, and histroy of tribelism/ ethic and racical balkanization... Any one with a brain can see what then end results will be, they are leaving before thing go from bad to worst to hellish nigthmare.

if you dont believe me google crime stats South Africa
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:51 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Default Are There Any Places With Liberal Policies That Are Doing Well?

Texas.
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Old 06-23-2013, 02:56 AM
 
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in order for liberal policies to be successful, you can't have diversity. this is why all of the examples of european socialism liberals love to point out lack diversity. norway is a country they love to use as an example. norway is 90% norwegian. there aren't 20,000,000 illegals in the country trying to mooch off of the system, and if there were, the country would fold.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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in order for liberal policies to be successful, you can't have diversity. this is why all of the examples of european socialism liberals love to point out lack diversity. norway is a country they love to use as an example. norway is 90% norwegian. there aren't 20,000,000 illegals in the country trying to mooch off of the system, and if there were, the country would fold.
So there are no poor people in Norway? Also, is there even 20,000,000 people legally in Norway?
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