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"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 24 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by pghquest
I dont support Romneycare either, but at least that was self funded and didnt cost trillions of dollars, and it didnt raise taxes, and isnt mandated on the citizens.
Oh thats right, you think their the same cause Obama said so.. yeah, I'm laughing at you again.
edit: Oh and I forgot, Romneycare actually increased the number of insured individuals, while Obamacare is supposed to lower it.. and STILL cost $1T+..
Yeah, you high 5 failure all the time
You must be talking about yourself in the bold.
There is the argument, that under Obamacare, about 1 million people will be kicked off their health insurance. Even if that was true, the provisions in Obamacare added 30 million people just last year alone.
30 -1 = + 29
the same inability to count seems to also follow you when it comes to cost. 1.1 trillion dollars is the cost of Obamacare to the system, but the old system cost 2.8 trillion.
2.8 -1.1 = 1.7 trillion dollars less the government is spending on healthcare.(over 10 years i believe).
by the way, the same people who wrote Romneycare, helped to write Obamacare, and in his own words
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Originally Posted by ALackOfCreativity
This is wrong, the real reason is a lot more technical but I will try to explain.........
How is it wrong if that is what the CBO said in its report? If you want to claim there is more to it than that, then fine, but the CBO did give it as a reason.
It is going to be a disaster. Rationed medicine, doctor shortages, shut down of drug research, European medical mediocracy run amok. Y'all asked for it, and now you are going to get it. And y'all deserve it. For being stupid.
get rid of it before it becomes a real trainwreck.
I won't deflect. It hasn't been a disaster yet. Prove that it has been, please.
My insurance went up 9 percent this year due to "Obamacare".
No reason was ever given all those years it went up 10-13 a year.
Because it is not fully implimented, and yes righties on this board have discussed why insurance has gone up over the last 10 years, it's a natural cycle. We fully understand that.
I won't deflect. It hasn't been a disaster yet. Prove that it has been, please.
My insurance went up 9 percent this year due to "Obamacare".
No reason was ever given all those years it went up 10-13 a year.
However, lets everyone get past the petty BS that people are slinging....both left and right...
It was sold to Americans as going to lower your insurance by 3000% (or somthing like that), now, you can say it however you want to say it, but most people will believe that there insurance is going to go down by 3000%. No matter how you look at it. You can come with all the fancy names and provide all the fancy graphs you want, but most Americans won't/can't understand that.
Hell in an ABC poll 42% of Americans did not kow it was even law...
So you people on the left, you can sit here and BS with yourself and some of you may know it better than others, but most of the people don't have a clue what is about to happen.
Now, you take 2 of the largest promoters of the bill and they are saying it's going to be a train wreck, what the hell are Americans supposed to think? Yea, you say well it's funding, most Americas were told it would not cost more than 1 trillion, most Americans won't/can't understand that...all they know now it is a train wreck...
Harry Reid is not to blame. Obama is not to blame. The American People are to blame. They are the ones who elected and supported collectivistic politicians who think socialized European-style medical rationing is the answer to the problem of health care that is already overpriced because of government involvement and control.
The American People voted on self-destruction, and they are going to get exactly that.
"You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter." -Inception
"Train wreck" does not begin to describe what we are about to see as we take the finest health care system in the world and metaphorically send two airliners into it and watch it explode and burn and come crashing to the ground.
And when it doesn't work, and when you can't get a procedure before your are dead, and when you can't find a decent doctor, and when Capitalist drug companies stop taking risks because there is no payoff, you will all be screaming in protest. How did this happen?! Why can't I just have what I need?!
You think need is a basis for stealing from one to give to another? Well fine. Now you reap the rewards!
There is the argument, that under Obamacare, about 1 million people will be kicked off their health insurance. Even if that was true, the provisions in Obamacare added 30 million people just last year alone.
Thats just utter bull crap. There wasnt even 30 million people without insurance.
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
the same inability to count seems to also follow you when it comes to cost. 1.1 trillion dollars is the cost of Obamacare to the system, but the old system cost 2.8 trillion.
2.8 -1.1 = 1.7 trillion dollars less the government is spending on healthcare.(over 10 years i believe).
Romney said he wasnt called, and the founders of that plan was Newt Gingrich, who also said they werent called. ONE person being consulted on a "committee", doesnt even come close to "the same people".. Obamacare is over 10,000 pages long, how longs Romneycare?
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