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Old 05-20-2013, 05:34 PM
 
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As a registered Republican I can agree conservatism by and large is pretty much dead at this point. There's too many minorities that's immigrated here in recent decades and the Democrats were smart to lasso all of them onto their plantation and keep them loyal.

The Republicans only fatal mistake was sitting by idly polishing their nails while the democrats welcomed new immigrants in. In short, the Republicans are idiots. That or they're just putting on a show and pretending like they cared about conservative issues. The Republicans would have full power over the United States had they kept the non-white immigrants out. They should have shot down Kennedy's bill that opened the door to everyone and they should have impeached Reagan when he signed the amnesty bill.

But they didn't. They sat by and did nothing. In fact many of them applaud Ronald Reagan. The first president to sign in amnesty.

The Republicans really are a bunch of idiots. lol

It's a shame too because now the country is going to descend into degeneracy and third world status thanks to social liberal ideology. But what do I care. I won't be around to see it happen so IDC.

 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It's not over yet for the GOP.

I hear they have video of Obama at a picnic where he asks someone to pass the ketchup and a Marine hands over the bottle.

That will be the turning point for the Republicans.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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Republicans in my opinion seems to be defined by hate. Everything that they stand for seems to be against this or that. They believe in exclusivity and that some people are born more deserving than others. They just seem anti-human from the average person's point of view.
Sadly, these thoughts are not anti-human, they are explicitly human.

Yes, modern American conservatism was created as a backlash against the success of liberal public policy.

The very birth of the ideology is based on being against something.

It's just over the years in order to stop liberalism, conservatism has increasingly come to mean being against whatever liberals support even if they are former conservative ideas.

So conservatives are anti-union, anti- black people voting, anti-immigrant, anti- muslim, anti-abortion, anti- homosexual marriage, anti- gun control, anti- legalization of marijuana, anti- government, anti- taxes, anti-poor people, anti-single moms, anti climate change, anti-stem cell research, anti- big cities, anti- liberal states, etc.

conservatives voters don't like our government, they increasingly don't like other Americans, the conservative party appeals to those sentiments.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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Well of course conservatives are unpopular with the 50+% of Americans who are presently looting the treasury.

Conservatives are the wet blankets who want to stop the Democrats from giving away money stolen from our children.
You mean the wet blankets who gave Bush a blank check to bankrupt us with two unfunded wars, tax cuts for the super rich, and other deficit inducing buffoonery?
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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As a registered Republican I can agree conservatism by and large is pretty much dead at this point. There's too many minorities that's immigrated here in recent decades and the Democrats were smart to lasso all of them onto their plantation and keep them loyal.

The Republicans only fatal mistake was sitting by idly polishing their nails while the democrats welcomed new immigrants in. In short, the Republicans are idiots. That or they're just putting on a show and pretending like they cared about conservative issues. The Republicans would have full power over the United States had they kept the non-white immigrants out. They should have shot down Kennedy's bill that opened the door to everyone and they should have done the worst to Reagan when he signed the amnesty bill.

But they didn't. They sat by and did nothing. In fact many of them applaud Ronald Reagan. The first president to sign in amnesty.

The Republicans really are a bunch of idiots. lol

It's a shame too because now the country is going to descend into degeneracy and third world status thanks to social liberal ideology. But what do I care. I won't be around to see it happen so IDC.
See this is what I mean when I write that the core of conservatism is exclusion, and that conservatives don't really believe in representative government.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The Republican party, already more unpopular than cockroaches, has hit an all time low in the eyes of Americans. A new CNN poll has found a worsening of the GOP's tattared image amid their fake scandal stunt against the President. Here is an excerpt summarizing America's distrust of Republicans in the new poll:



In a week that was supposed to be the worse of Obama's Presidency (or so Republicans hope), Republicans are the ones who emerged bruised. Americans must really hate the GOP... or reality does indeed have a liberal bias.

Source


Be patient.


This is a list of events that preceded the decline in Nixon's popularity...


1971
  • June 13, 1971: The New York Times begins publishing the Pentagon Papers – the Defense Department’s secret history of the Vietnam War. The Washington Post will begin publishing the papers later in the week.
  • September 9, 1971: The White House “plumbers” unit – named for their orders to plug leaks in the administration – burglarizes a psychiatrist’s office to find files on Daniel Ellsberg, the former defense analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.
1972
  • June 17, 1972: Five men, one of whom says he used to work for the CIA, are arrested at 2:30 a.m. trying to bug the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate hotel and office complex.
  • June 19, 1972: A GOP security aide is among the Watergate burglars, The Washington Post reports. Former attorney general John Mitchell, head of the Nixon reelection campaign, denies any link to the operation.
  • August 1, 1972: A $25,000 cashier’s check, apparently earmarked for the Nixon campaign, wound up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar, The Washington Post reports.
  • September 29, 1972: John Mitchell, while serving as attorney general, controlled a secret Republican fund used to finance widespread intelligence-gathering operations against the Democrats, The Post reports.
  • October 10, 1972: FBI agents establish that the Watergate break-in stems from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of the Nixon reelection effort, The Post reports.
  • November 11, 1972: Nixon is reelected in one of the largest landslides in American political history, taking more than 60 percent of the vote and crushing the Democratic nominee, Sen. George McGovern of South Dakota.
1973
  • January 30, 1973: Former Nixon aides G. Gordon Liddy and James W. McCord Jr. are convicted of conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping in the Watergate incident. Five other men plead guilty, but mysteries remain.


At this point Nixon has a 54% approval rating.




Watergate: Brief Timeline Of Events
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Be patient.


This is a list of events that preceded the decline in Nixon's popularity...


1971
  • June 13, 1971: The New York Times begins publishing the Pentagon Papers – the Defense Department’s secret history of the Vietnam War. The Washington Post will begin publishing the papers later in the week.
  • September 9, 1971: The White House “plumbers” unit – named for their orders to plug leaks in the administration – burglarizes a psychiatrist’s office to find files on Daniel Ellsberg, the former defense analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.
1972
  • June 17, 1972: Five men, one of whom says he used to work for the CIA, are arrested at 2:30 a.m. trying to bug the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate hotel and office complex.
  • June 19, 1972: A GOP security aide is among the Watergate burglars, The Washington Post reports. Former attorney general John Mitchell, head of the Nixon reelection campaign, denies any link to the operation.
  • August 1, 1972: A $25,000 cashier’s check, apparently earmarked for the Nixon campaign, wound up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar, The Washington Post reports.
  • September 29, 1972: John Mitchell, while serving as attorney general, controlled a secret Republican fund used to finance widespread intelligence-gathering operations against the Democrats, The Post reports.
  • October 10, 1972: FBI agents establish that the Watergate break-in stems from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of the Nixon reelection effort, The Post reports.
  • November 11, 1972: Nixon is reelected in one of the largest landslides in American political history, taking more than 60 percent of the vote and crushing the Democratic nominee, Sen. George McGovern of South Dakota.
1973
  • January 30, 1973: Former Nixon aides G. Gordon Liddy and James W. McCord Jr. are convicted of conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping in the Watergate incident. Five other men plead guilty, but mysteries remain.


At this point Nixon has a 54% approval rating.




Watergate: Brief Timeline Of Events
Except none of these scandals is watergate. Why don't conservatives understand this?
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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So conservatives are anti-union, anti- black people voting, anti-immigrant, anti- muslim, anti-abortion, anti- homosexual marriage, anti- gun control, anti- legalization of marijuana, anti- government, anti- taxes, anti-poor people, anti-single moms, anti climate change, anti-stem cell research, anti- big cities, anti- liberal states, etc.
Is it that simple to you? Let's look at a few of your issues.

anti-union means pro-worker freedom
anti-abortion means take a humane position of not killing 1,000,000 fetuses every year.
anti-gun control means opposing legislation that will not save lives
anti-government - that isn't a conservative position. That is a an anarchist position.
anti-taxes - just anti-excessive taxes
anti-poor - conservatives want the government to get out of the way and to stop a growing dependency on government
anti-single mom - single parent households clearly struggle more. So conservatives would like to increase the number of households with two parents.
anti-big cities?? what does this mean?
anti-liberal states? Aren't you against conservative states?
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I can honestly understand this. I'm not excusing what Obama's administration did, but Republicans and the GOP are so eager to get rid of him any way they can that they take what should have been a simple "Find out what went wrong" deal to a verifiable witch hunt, making themselves seemingly desperate and crazy and just turning off the voter base.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You mean the wet blankets who gave Bush a blank check to bankrupt us with two unfunded wars, tax cuts for the super rich, and other deficit inducing buffoonery?


Yep, those Bush deficits were really big!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...s/hist01z1.xls

FTR, my income was twice what it is today when W was in office.
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