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I don't know if this thread has been done b4 or not, if so it must be sort of in the archives or something...anyway,
The world has 7 billion people in it and some of us are agreeing that could be a real problem.
We would need a population control council, sort of like a sci-fi movie only real Here are my ideas:
1. Sort of like China did once...a "two children only" policy. That would apply to ALL countries. If someone wanted more children they could always visit an orphanage. Or foster someone else's. Or adopt. But two biological children only-that would be the bottom line.
2. Make infertility clinics a thing of the past. Shut 'em down.
3. Involuntary sterilization after the two children have come.
4. People who want children will have to have them between 20 and 40 and no later. There would be laws prohibiting men having second families and so on...
5. People have to be married first and there will be no welfare, and higher taxes for larger families and lower taxes for the smaller families.
I also think arranged marriages should take place in America but that is a different topic whatsoever.
Yanno, overpopulation is anissue that ALL of us may have to face one day one way or another.
Well, I despise OP's ideas. Birth rates are going down below replacement levels in Western Society anyway. We won't need to curb overpopulation, we're going to start seeing numbers go the other way. More of my female friends are choosing to go childfree. And birth rates have been gradually lowering in many developing nations also.
World Data:
In Bangladesh fertility rates have fallen from 6.8 children per woman to 2.7 in 2010; In China the decline was from 5.6 to 1.7; Brazil went from 6.1 to 1.8. In Brazil, economic growth has given women the chance to work, while popular local t.v. soap operas (novelas) portray working women with small families.
Nigeria declined less: from 6.5 in 1955 to 5.2, and Yemen declined from 8.3 to 5.1.
The rate of growth of the world population has halved since the 1960s; the number added to the population has fallen every year for over 20 years. The drop in fertility has been driven mainly by economic development, female emancipation, education, contraception and by the defeat of child mortality: women can now actually plan their families.
About 59 countries (comprising about 44% of the world’s population) are not producing enough children to maintain their population.
Demographers predict that the world population will peak at about 9 billion by 2070 and then start to contract. The population of Russia, for example, is currently contracting by about 750,000 per year and Japan’s population is expected to fall by about one third during the next 50 years. Fertility in the Middle East is falling especially fast. (See "The global baby bust" by Phillip Longman, Foreign Affairs 2004, vol 83(3), pp 64-79).
in 2010, Europe was the continent with the lowest average "total fertility rate" (TFR), at 1.5 children per woman. Fertility decline was especially rapid in Southern Europe: Spain and Italy have 1.2 children per woman.
Providing an economy where most people think they will be supported by either a surviving child or the state when they get elderly. Childbirth is hazardous in 1st world countries with high end medical care. It is far more dangerous when only a midwife is available. Women, when they have the choice, are voting to have only 1 or 2 childern not 6 or more. There are many reasons there are more surviving childern.
I hope this is sufficiently thoughtful. I could say the same thing in a lot more words if it pleases the powers that be.
Tax incentives for NOT having children. Right now, in the US, the tax code favors persons with children and basically "punishes" those with out. Remember, persons without children aren't using one of the most costly government funded programs there is: Education. So why are they taxed at a higher rate, to pay for schools, etc and those who use those programs are given a tax break?
I don't know if this thread has been done b4 or not, if so it must be sort of in the archives or something...anyway,
The world has 7 billion people in it and some of us are agreeing that could be a real problem.
We would need a population control council, sort of like a sci-fi movie only real Here are my ideas:
1. Sort of like China did once...a "two children only" policy. That would apply to ALL countries. If someone wanted more children they could always visit an orphanage. Or foster someone else's. Or adopt. But two biological children only-that would be the bottom line.
2. Make infertility clinics a thing of the past. Shut 'em down.
3. Involuntary sterilization after the two children have come.
4. People who want children will have to have them between 20 and 40 and no later. There would be laws prohibiting men having second families and so on...
5. People have to be married first and there will be no welfare, and higher taxes for larger families and lower taxes for the smaller families.
I also think arranged marriages should take place in America but that is a different topic whatsoever.
Yanno, overpopulation is anissue that ALL of us may have to face one day one way or another.
I am a progressive thinker, but I still think nature intended for women to have their children when they are relatively young-not teens maybe, but certainly in their 20s and 30s. I have one cousin that had one at 42 (2008) that's pushing it-and I do know one of her older children has type 1 diabetes.
I also think the taxes we pay every year should be used for good purposes....like Phil said there should be tax incentives to stay childless or only have one or two.
I shudder to think my tax dollars could be supporting illegal aliens, welfare mothers and their illegitamite brats or deadbeat boyfriend...I know I tend to offend some people, but I know also that there are other poeple who think like I do
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I don't know if this thread has been done b4 or not, if so it must be sort of in the archives or something...anyway,
The world has 7 billion people in it and some of us are agreeing that could be a real problem.
We would need a population control council, sort of like a sci-fi movie only real Here are my ideas:
1. Sort of like China did once...a "two children only" policy. That would apply to ALL countries. If someone wanted more children they could always visit an orphanage. Or foster someone else's. Or adopt. But two biological children only-that would be the bottom line.
2. Make infertility clinics a thing of the past. Shut 'em down.
3. Involuntary sterilization after the two children have come.
4. People who want children will have to have them between 20 and 40 and no later. There would be laws prohibiting men having second families and so on...
5. People have to be married first and there will be no welfare, and higher taxes for larger families and lower taxes for the smaller families.
I also think arranged marriages should take place in America but that is a different topic whatsoever.
Yanno, overpopulation is anissue that ALL of us may have to face one day one way or another.
Two of the world's super powers can't agree on whether a country that has set up concentration camps possibly containing 100,000 people is good or bad, should have nuclear weapons or not. And the entire world, including those middle eastern countries stuck in the Stone Age and African countries with no gov't in place, are going to agree on a common solution?
The way the world is progressing, I think it will soon become necessary we shut our borders and protect our nation. But America will be so diluted and split apart, we will not be able unite for our own common good.
Well, I despise OP's ideas. Birth rates are going down below replacement levels in Western Society anyway. We won't need to curb overpopulation, we're going to start seeing numbers go the other way. More of my female friends are choosing to go childfree. And birth rates have been gradually lowering in many developing nations also.
World Data:
In Bangladesh fertility rates have fallen from 6.8 children per woman to 2.7 in 2010; In China the decline was from 5.6 to 1.7; Brazil went from 6.1 to 1.8. In Brazil, economic growth has given women the chance to work, while popular local t.v. soap operas (novelas) portray working women with small families.
Nigeria declined less: from 6.5 in 1955 to 5.2, and Yemen declined from 8.3 to 5.1.
The rate of growth of the world population has halved since the 1960s; the number added to the population has fallen every year for over 20 years. The drop in fertility has been driven mainly by economic development, female emancipation, education, contraception and by the defeat of child mortality: women can now actually plan their families.
About 59 countries (comprising about 44% of the world’s population) are not producing enough children to maintain their population.
Demographers predict that the world population will peak at about 9 billion by 2070 and then start to contract. The population of Russia, for example, is currently contracting by about 750,000 per year and Japan’s population is expected to fall by about one third during the next 50 years. Fertility in the Middle East is falling especially fast. (See "The global baby bust" by Phillip Longman, Foreign Affairs 2004, vol 83(3), pp 64-79).
in 2010, Europe was the continent with the lowest average "total fertility rate" (TFR), at 1.5 children per woman. Fertility decline was especially rapid in Southern Europe: Spain and Italy have 1.2 children per woman.
We can expect population decline before the next century.
This is good because it means immigration will progressively become less of an issue because people won't need to immigrate anymore.
Yay. People won't be ethnically cleansed by mass immigration. \o/
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Here are my ideas:
