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"A spate of attacks by Islamic insurgents in Somalia's capital is forcing investors, businessmen and aid workers to have second thoughts about expanding operations in Mogadishu...One such attack struck a car carrying Turkish aid workers on a day when gunmen and suicide bombers killed 35 people at the nation's court complex...Ahmed Jama is the owner of a popular restaurant in the city that has been attacked by militants. 'There's no security left here. The violence is also denying us any reasonable profits,' Jama said. 'We receive few customers these days. It's discouraging. I wish I could leave here soon.'" Violence in Somalia scares investors, aid workers
And here I must thank President Obama yet again for increasing my tax load EVEN MORE to pay for crap that has nothing to do with the United States: "the U.S. has pumped more than $1.5 billion worth of assistance into the country since 2009, including the $40 million pledged on Tuesday." After decades as 'world's most dangerous' place, has Somalia turned the corner? - World News
Somalia only came out of anarchy about 7 years ago, and is pretty much getting back on its feet.. the somalia of anarchy WAS a hell hole.. but the somalia of today is a whole lot better. you still get the occasional bomb going off, but then again, you get that in israel too.. there are parts of somalia that are peaceful.. ALOT more peaceful than the WHOLE of a dictator ruled Italy or an infected Ireland.
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No, our nation was NOT built on multiculturalism. It has been declining since the early 1970s BECAUSE of multiculturalism, fueled by federal immigration policy.
The pre-1965 immigration restrictions directly resulted in America's prosperous Middle Class: "Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster
Everything changed in 1965 when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Immigration and Naturalization Act, (aka the Hart-Celler Act) which "marked a radical break with previous policy and has led to profound demographic changes in America." 1965 Immigration Law Changed Face of America : NPR Liberal politicians pushed the changes and assured voters that they were harmless; with Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts famously assuring that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster In actuality, the Act resulted in "one of the greatest waves of immigration in the nation's history — more than 18 million legal immigrants since the law's passage, over triple the number admitted during the previous 30 years, as well as uncountable millions of illegal immigrants..." Three Decades of Mass Immigration: The Legacy of the 1965 Immigration Act | Center for Immigration Studies
The massive influx of poor immigrants eventually provided the statistical data to support for the obvious conclusion that flooding the low-paid workforce would result in lower wages, and an increasing share of wealth going to the very top of the economic ladder: "There is now an emerging body of evidence that admitting 700,00 to 900,000 immigrants and tolerating an additional 300,000 new illegal immigrants each year suppresses the wages of workers like Matt. Over the last few years, studies done separately by scholars at Harvard, the University of California at Riverside, the University of Chicago and the Bureau of Labor Statistics all indicate that immigration has significantly contributed to the rise of income inequality between high- and low-income families...The view that immigration is reducing wages and contributing significantly to income inequality is now accepted both by the Council of Economic Advisers and in the recent Census Bureau report on income inequality." Labor's Day Off | Center for Immigration Studies
The decline has been catastrophic for the working class: "by the early 1990s the real hourly spendable earnings of private nonproduction/nonsupervisory employees in the United States had fallen 'below the level they had last reached in 1967…. Referring to these trends since the early 1970s as ‘the wage squeeze’ is polite understatement. Calling it the ‘wage collapse’ might be more apt.'" Furthermore, it was the bottom 80% or so of wage and salary workers that declined most sharply, while "Wages and salaries received by the upper levels of private employees actually increased from 1965 to the present as a share of GDP." Class War and Labor
And the continuing decline of the value of labor apparently has no end in sight, with liberal Big Government still catering to Big Business while ignoring the voters who have been losing prosperity for the past 40 years: "The beginning of the 21st century was a “lost decade” for the middle class, Harvard economist Lawrence Katz said, but the decline has been under way for decades. In the early 1970s, middle-class households earned 62 percent of the national income; today, they bring in just 45 percent." Immigration Reform and the Lessons of 2012 - NYTimes.com
I compare the current liberal push for ever-more diversity with a self-sufficient family farm. It is true this farm benefits from a wide variety of vegetables and crops being grown. But if you put no work in cultivating the productive plants, and allow them to be crowded out with weeds, soon your farm can no longer support even the owner's family. When liberals refuse to stop "open door" immigration, their extremely high public service needs (schools, welfare, health care) more than swamp out the minimal tax revenue they provide--which requires productive people (who pay more taxes than they receive in services) to lose more and more of their income to subsidize them.
At some point the leisure of "The Dole" will outweigh the minimal income gains that highly taxed individuals end up with--and that's where we are today. With the coming of Obamacare, the last barrier to very early retirement for productive workers will be removed, and we will see a mass exodus from the ranks of high tax payers. People like my husband and I are ready and simply waiting for Obamacare to be ready to receive us, as we no longer have to worry about paying for insurance with our minimal post-early retirement income.
I'm selfishly happy for us on one level, but deeply worried about America's future. Just like clueless politicians like Ted Kennedy arguing that that the 1965 Immigration Act wouldn't have any significant ramifications at all, so today nobody is wondering if Obamacare (combined with high tax rates) will lure large numbers of highly paid workers into immediate retirement. Because guaranteed, they won't be replaced with new highly-paid workers--and in many cases, won't be replaced at all.
The future of the USA IS looking bleek, but its not due immigration or immigrants. its such a complex subject and if you look at the simple point of view, you would blame the immigrants because that is what you see, i would too, but there is sooo much more to it... a prosperous USA would be able to take 1 million, even 2 million immigrants without affecting the current population even 1 bit.. a prosperous USA would have more jobs than people, but clearly thats not the case. 0.3% of USA's population increase is a result of immigrants.. if a country can't handle an 0.3% increase in population then it is in BAD shape. its clearly not being run properly.
Somalia only came out of anarchy about 7 years ago, and is pretty much getting back on its feet.. the somalia of anarchy WAS a hell hole.. but the somalia of today is a whole lot better. you still get the occasional bomb going off, but then again, you get that in israel too.. there are parts of somalia that are peaceful.. ALOT more peaceful than the WHOLE of a dictator ruled Italy or an infected Ireland.
The future of the USA IS looking bleek, but its not due immigration or immigrants. its such a complex subject and if you look at the simple point of view, you would blame the immigrants because that is what you see, i would too, but there is sooo much more to it... a prosperous USA would be able to take 1 million, even 2 million immigrants without affecting the current population even 1 bit.. a prosperous USA would have more jobs than people, but clearly thats not the case. 0.3% of USA's population increase is a result of immigrants.. if a country can't handle an 0.3% increase in population then it is in BAD shape. its clearly not being run properly.
I see you are ill informed on the ramifications of what you are suggesting in regards to immigration.
Funny how many articles fail to mention that the rioters are Muslim. Also interesting that the same people who say the Drug War is futile and Nation Building is futile do not seem to recognize that that Multiculturalism appears to also be futile.
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I don't think you understand the scale of the problem that happened in Palestine... the british allowed the Jewish running from persecution to come in at MILLIONS at a time and it was within a period of 10-20 years, and that was when palestine's population itself was less than 10 million. they were outpopulated within 30 years.. in the USA, there are 12 million illegal immigrants, and those have been accumulated ever since US immigration reforms were made, what, 50 years ago ?.. 12 million is only 4% of the USA population.. in palestine, it was closer to 100%.. you're still 96% off from being in trouble, which simply isn't going to happen because the USA birthrate and legal immigration is ALOT higher than illegal immigration.
Reagan legalized 4(?) million when he was in office, there were millions legal already at that time, and the 12 millions is a figure that is not accurate at all.
Funny how many articles fail to mention that the rioters are Muslim. Also interesting that the same people who say the Drug War is futile and Nation Building is futile do not seem to recognize that that Multiculturalism appears to also be futile.
No, our nation was NOT built on multiculturalism. It has been declining since the early 1970s BECAUSE of multiculturalism, fueled by federal immigration policy.
The pre-1965 immigration restrictions directly resulted in America's prosperous Middle Class: "Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster
Everything changed in 1965 when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Immigration and Naturalization Act, (aka the Hart-Celler Act) which "marked a radical break with previous policy and has led to profound demographic changes in America." 1965 Immigration Law Changed Face of America : NPR Liberal politicians pushed the changes and assured voters that they were harmless; with Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts famously assuring that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster In actuality, the Act resulted in "one of the greatest waves of immigration in the nation's history — more than 18 million legal immigrants since the law's passage, over triple the number admitted during the previous 30 years, as well as uncountable millions of illegal immigrants..." Three Decades of Mass Immigration: The Legacy of the 1965 Immigration Act | Center for Immigration Studies
The massive influx of poor immigrants eventually provided the statistical data to support for the obvious conclusion that flooding the low-paid workforce would result in lower wages, and an increasing share of wealth going to the very top of the economic ladder: "There is now an emerging body of evidence that admitting 700,00 to 900,000 immigrants and tolerating an additional 300,000 new illegal immigrants each year suppresses the wages of workers like Matt. Over the last few years, studies done separately by scholars at Harvard, the University of California at Riverside, the University of Chicago and the Bureau of Labor Statistics all indicate that immigration has significantly contributed to the rise of income inequality between high- and low-income families...The view that immigration is reducing wages and contributing significantly to income inequality is now accepted both by the Council of Economic Advisers and in the recent Census Bureau report on income inequality." Labor's Day Off | Center for Immigration Studies
The decline has been catastrophic for the working class: "by the early 1990s the real hourly spendable earnings of private nonproduction/nonsupervisory employees in the United States had fallen 'below the level they had last reached in 1967…. Referring to these trends since the early 1970s as ‘the wage squeeze’ is polite understatement. Calling it the ‘wage collapse’ might be more apt.'" Furthermore, it was the bottom 80% or so of wage and salary workers that declined most sharply, while "Wages and salaries received by the upper levels of private employees actually increased from 1965 to the present as a share of GDP." Class War and Labor
And the continuing decline of the value of labor apparently has no end in sight, with liberal Big Government still catering to Big Business while ignoring the voters who have been losing prosperity for the past 40 years: "The beginning of the 21st century was a “lost decade” for the middle class, Harvard economist Lawrence Katz said, but the decline has been under way for decades. In the early 1970s, middle-class households earned 62 percent of the national income; today, they bring in just 45 percent." Immigration Reform and the Lessons of 2012 - NYTimes.com
I compare the current liberal push for ever-more diversity with a self-sufficient family farm. It is true this farm benefits from a wide variety of vegetables and crops being grown. But if you put no work in cultivating the productive plants, and allow them to be crowded out with weeds, soon your farm can no longer support even the owner's family. When liberals refuse to stop "open door" immigration, their extremely high public service needs (schools, welfare, health care) more than swamp out the minimal tax revenue they provide--which requires productive people (who pay more taxes than they receive in services) to lose more and more of their income to subsidize them.
At some point the leisure of "The Dole" will outweigh the minimal income gains that highly taxed individuals end up with--and that's where we are today. With the coming of Obamacare, the last barrier to very early retirement for productive workers will be removed, and we will see a mass exodus from the ranks of high tax payers. People like my husband and I are ready and simply waiting for Obamacare to be ready to receive us, as we no longer have to worry about paying for insurance with our minimal post-early retirement income.
I'm selfishly happy for us on one level, but deeply worried about America's future. Just like clueless politicians like Ted Kennedy arguing that that the 1965 Immigration Act wouldn't have any significant ramifications at all, so today nobody is wondering if Obamacare (combined with high tax rates) will lure large numbers of highly paid workers into immediate retirement. Because guaranteed, they won't be replaced with new highly-paid workers--and in many cases, won't be replaced at all.
This is probably the turning point when the Left became more concerned about egalitarianism than economic power for the lower classes.
This is probably the turning point when the Left became more concerned about egalitarianism than economic power for the lower classes.
Agreed.
There was a lot of open racism in the US 50 years ago and NOT just against Black people. The crazy part of it was things were getting better and better for ALL Americans in 1960 and racism was becoming less.
It's def time to tighten the rules for immigration in Sweden and the US.
No, our nation was NOT built on multiculturalism. It has been declining since the early 1970s BECAUSE of multiculturalism, fueled by federal immigration policy.
The pre-1965 immigration restrictions directly resulted in America's prosperous Middle Class: "Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster
Everything changed in 1965 when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Immigration and Naturalization Act, (aka the Hart-Celler Act) which "marked a radical break with previous policy and has led to profound demographic changes in America." 1965 Immigration Law Changed Face of America : NPR Liberal politicians pushed the changes and assured voters that they were harmless; with Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts famously assuring that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." FrontPage Magazine - The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster In actuality, the Act resulted in "one of the greatest waves of immigration in the nation's history — more than 18 million legal immigrants since the law's passage, over triple the number admitted during the previous 30 years, as well as uncountable millions of illegal immigrants..." Three Decades of Mass Immigration: The Legacy of the 1965 Immigration Act | Center for Immigration Studies
The massive influx of poor immigrants eventually provided the statistical data to support for the obvious conclusion that flooding the low-paid workforce would result in lower wages, and an increasing share of wealth going to the very top of the economic ladder: "There is now an emerging body of evidence that admitting 700,00 to 900,000 immigrants and tolerating an additional 300,000 new illegal immigrants each year suppresses the wages of workers like Matt. Over the last few years, studies done separately by scholars at Harvard, the University of California at Riverside, the University of Chicago and the Bureau of Labor Statistics all indicate that immigration has significantly contributed to the rise of income inequality between high- and low-income families...The view that immigration is reducing wages and contributing significantly to income inequality is now accepted both by the Council of Economic Advisers and in the recent Census Bureau report on income inequality." Labor's Day Off | Center for Immigration Studies
The decline has been catastrophic for the working class: "by the early 1990s the real hourly spendable earnings of private nonproduction/nonsupervisory employees in the United States had fallen 'below the level they had last reached in 1967…. Referring to these trends since the early 1970s as ‘the wage squeeze’ is polite understatement. Calling it the ‘wage collapse’ might be more apt.'" Furthermore, it was the bottom 80% or so of wage and salary workers that declined most sharply, while "Wages and salaries received by the upper levels of private employees actually increased from 1965 to the present as a share of GDP." Class War and Labor
And the continuing decline of the value of labor apparently has no end in sight, with liberal Big Government still catering to Big Business while ignoring the voters who have been losing prosperity for the past 40 years: "The beginning of the 21st century was a “lost decade” for the middle class, Harvard economist Lawrence Katz said, but the decline has been under way for decades. In the early 1970s, middle-class households earned 62 percent of the national income; today, they bring in just 45 percent." Immigration Reform and the Lessons of 2012 - NYTimes.com
I compare the current liberal push for ever-more diversity with a self-sufficient family farm. It is true this farm benefits from a wide variety of vegetables and crops being grown. But if you put no work in cultivating the productive plants, and allow them to be crowded out with weeds, soon your farm can no longer support even the owner's family. When liberals refuse to stop "open door" immigration, their extremely high public service needs (schools, welfare, health care) more than swamp out the minimal tax revenue they provide--which requires productive people (who pay more taxes than they receive in services) to lose more and more of their income to subsidize them.
At some point the leisure of "The Dole" will outweigh the minimal income gains that highly taxed individuals end up with--and that's where we are today. With the coming of Obamacare, the last barrier to very early retirement for productive workers will be removed, and we will see a mass exodus from the ranks of high tax payers. People like my husband and I are ready and simply waiting for Obamacare to be ready to receive us, as we no longer have to worry about paying for insurance with our minimal post-early retirement income.
I'm selfishly happy for us on one level, but deeply worried about America's future. Just like clueless politicians like Ted Kennedy arguing that that the 1965 Immigration Act wouldn't have any significant ramifications at all, so today nobody is wondering if Obamacare (combined with high tax rates) will lure large numbers of highly paid workers into immediate retirement. Because guaranteed, they won't be replaced with new highly-paid workers--and in many cases, won't be replaced at all.
Agreed.
I had to laugh about Ireland since us "Irish" had a real BAD rep as last as the 1950's. But we pretty much stopped being "Shanty Irish" and most of us were "Lace Curtain Irish" by 1965 in the US.
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