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View Poll Results: Will Zimmerman be convicted of murder
Convicted 116 40.42%
Acquitted 171 59.58%
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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And of course you accept Zimmerman's fictitious account of what happened:

"You gonna die tonight."

"You got me."

What a damn joke.
No, I don't accept gz's account of what happened. To hardcore racialists like you, disputing anything the IAmTrayvon's say or offering info that supports the defense = believing gz.

One of several examples. In an interview with cops or on tv, gz said tm punched him more than a dozen times. I don't believe that.

 
Old 06-05-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I hasten to point out that there has never been a riot by African Americans (white folks is whole other matter) as the result of the criminal trial of a non-state actor. Every riot from the 1980 Miami Riots to 1992 Los Angles/Rodney King Riot have been the result of perception of systematic injustice on the part of the state and leniency for police abuse. As Col. David Hackworth opined while covering the LA riot, it wasn't a riot it was an insurrection.
You are, of course, correct. I would not be one to deny institutionalized racism or the justifiable complaints of anyone unjustly treated, particularly via the legal system. As someone who lived through the Peace Movement back in the day, I certainly wouldn't deny that there have been riots instigated by the police against nonviolent protesters. Chicago in '68 will always be a blight on this state.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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What Is an Affirmative Defense? - FindLaw Blotter

If SA Angela Corey is as good as they say she is, win lose or draw, Mr. Zimmerman is going to have one tough day(s) on the stand.
Do you think O'Mara will try to prove self defense without putting Zimmerman on the stand......can you think of any way they could effectively prove self defense without Zimmerman testifying? Because, IMO, Zimmerman would be a disaster on the witness stand. He's no Jodi Arias.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: FL
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I read that Zimmerman actually didn't see his family physician. Instead he talked to the PA (physician Assistant) because he needed a medical excuse for work absence. She suggested that he schedule an appointment with an ENT (ears, nose throat) specialist but Zimmerman refused. Even though he claimed he'd been told that he had a broken nose (but that was false, he wasn't told that). No X-RAYS were taken. She also suggested he see a psychologist (and THAT was strange).
Exactly! It was never verified if he had a broken nose because he never went to the specialist.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:12 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Exactly! It was never verified if he had a broken nose because he never went to the specialist.
An xray would prove it now though. Yeah,yeah,yeah. I know <insert whiny voice> but,but it coulda' happened sometime beffffoooorrrreeee.

You know what'll crack me up? A hung jury.
That'd keep this thread humming right along for a year or more.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:31 PM
 
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No, I don't accept gz's account of what happened. To hardcore racialists like you, disputing anything the IAmTrayvon's say or offering info that supports the defense = believing gz.

One of several examples. In an interview with cops or on tv, gz said tm punched him more than a dozen times. I don't believe that.
The irony is obvious in your statement.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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I predicted that Casey Anthony wouldn't be convicted and that was due to lack of evidence. Zimmermann will be convicted of manslaughter.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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An xray would prove it now though. Yeah,yeah,yeah. I know <insert whiny voice> but,but it coulda' happened sometime beffffoooorrrreeee.

You know what'll crack me up? A hung jury.
That'd keep this thread humming right along for a year or more.
There will be only 6 jurors. Surely 6 people can agree. But it would be humorous if it were hung.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:40 PM
 
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I predicted that Casey Anthony wouldn't be convicted and that was due to lack of evidence. Zimmermann will be convicted of manslaughter.
There was as much, if not more evidence against Casey Anthony as there is against George Zimmerman.
 
Old 06-05-2013, 06:47 PM
 
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And, in your opinion, "fighting words" could not be a cause for the incident?

I think you should research Florida's self defense laws.........I believe there is a duty to retreat if possible.
There is no legal justification for fighting words being a legitimate cause of any physical confrontation. I can't believe that adults don't get that in this day and age. It's true. Welcome to civilized society.

As far as I know from the avalanche of media coverage, Florida has a stand your ground law. No duty to retreat. Correct me if I'm wrong. Even if this was the case (a duty to retreat), Zimmerman was obviously being beaten while on his back and so no retreat was possible.
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