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Aaron Butler, the leader of his 8-year-old son Evan’s Cub Scout Wolf den in Roseau, Minn., said he didn't explain to his eldest son exactly why they were walking away from an organization they loved so much, but he told NBC News that it was because of last week's controversial decision by the Boy Scouts of America to allow gay youth to participate.
“It was a big disappointment. He cried for about 10 minutes because I told him that Boy Scouts were not honoring their own law," Butler said, referring to the BSA oath that he interpreted as barring gay people. "They say it -- 'On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep [myself] physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight,” he said.
Morally straight does not mean heterosexual.
Here is what BSA has to say on the matter,
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Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.
Actually, that was what you did say, You may not have meant it that way, but it is what you said.
Just because someone quits the boy scouts over this, doesn't mean intolerance, and in fact the person who told their sone they were leaving because they felt the boy scouts were no longer adhering to their own standards didn't say ANYTHING about intolerance.
Why is it so hard for you to understand? Most families who put their kids in scouting don't approve of the gay lifestyle and certainly do not want it promoted to their children. They don't want their children exposed to that.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with their decision to pull their kids out.
I understand that. You are correct, there is nothing wrong with pulling their children from scouts based on their religious beliefs. I don't think I said it was wrong. I still think it promotes intolerance, but that could be said for Christianity as well.
I truly wish I could help you understand my position better. I will try and I hope you help me understand yours. I want my children to be accepting of anyone who loves that and wishes to cause no harm. I feel that if I taught my children that homosexuality was something to segregate the family from, I would be unable to keep them from thinking that homosexuality is bad, or lower than heterosexuality. If they thought homosexuality was bad or lower, I think my children would not accept a homosexual as a friend and I feel that promotes intolerance. Is it blind to eschew teaching that to my children, and to think that it is probably hurtful for others to teach that homosexuality is bad?
You miss the point, the article said the man
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Aaron Butler, the leader of his 8-year-old son Evan’s Cub Scout Wolf den in Roseau, Minn., said he didn't explain to his eldest son exactly why they were walking away from an organization they loved so much, but he told NBC News that it was because of last week's controversial decision by the Boy Scouts of America to allow gay youth to participate.
He didn't tell his son they were leaving because they allowed homosexuals, he gave his sone a general answer. How is THAT teaching intolerance? Nothing was said about homosexuality or heterosexuality, they left. End of story.
Doing your duty to God is to obey God's Word. Homosexuality is abominable to God.
You don't have to believe in the Christian god either. There are scouts of all religions. I know a Buddhist eagle scout who is a den leader in our pack.
Sorry, but there are more gods than just the Christian one.
You don't have to believe in the Christian god either. There are scouts of all religions. I know a Buddhist eagle scout who is a den leader in our pack.
Sorry, but there are more gods than just the Christian one.
Are you claiming that Buddhism, Judaism or Islam condones homosexuality?
I truly wish I could help you understand my position better. I will try and I hope you help me understand yours. I want my children to be accepting of anyone who loves that and wishes to cause no harm. I feel that if I taught my children that homosexuality was something to segregate the family from, I would be unable to keep them from thinking that homosexuality is bad, or lower than heterosexuality. If they thought homosexuality was bad or lower, I think my children would not accept a homosexual as a friend and I feel that promotes intolerance. Is it blind to eschew teaching that to my children, and to think that it is probably hurtful for others to teach that homosexuality is bad?
You are wasting your time trying to reason with people who think that homosexuality is a choice, an "agenda", ewww, and disgusting. They will villify gay people in front of their children, and have no desire to encourage tolerance. Quite frankly that type of attitude does not mesh with scouting principles, good riddance to them.
I understand that. You are correct, there is nothing wrong with pulling their children from scouts based on their religious beliefs. I don't think I said it was wrong. I still think it promotes intolerance, but that could be said for Christianity as well.
It has NOTHING to do with intolerance.
It has to do with faith and religion.
If anything it shows they are true to their faith by giving up something that was important in their lives.
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