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Old 06-06-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Tell me which branch of the fed govt does funding.
Congress writes the spending bills, the President AUTHORIZES IT..
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Has there been a separate funding bill for Gitmo or is its continued funding part of a much larger package that would be difficult veto?
The process to veto a march larger package is the same process for single funding bills..

VETO..

Hell, he even has a little ink stamper he can use.. Are you telling me Obama is that incompetent that he cant grab a ink samper off his desk?
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Please tell me, Mr Govt Expert.

It doesnt take a government expert to know whats taught in every 3rd grade class in the nation..

Here, its even in cartoon form, maybe you'll comprehend it

I'm Just a Bill - YouTube
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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Pubs have promised to keep it going by their continued votes against closing it. While at the same time whining about "why hasn't Obama kept his campaign promise?"

Nope. No cure for stupid.
I haven't seen a Republican vote that says he may not close it.

Can you tell us when such a vote took place?
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Congress writes the spending bills, the President AUTHORIZES IT..

The process to veto a march larger package is the same process for single funding bills..

VETO..

Hell, he even has a little ink stamper he can use.. Are you telling me Obama is that incompetent that he cant grab a ink samper off his desk?

It doesnt take a government expert to know whats taught in every 3rd grade class in the nation..

Here, its even in cartoon form, maybe you'll comprehend it

I'm Just a Bill - YouTube

Thanks!

From your previous post, you sounded like you didn't have a CLUE about how it works. I see you have a very simplistic grasp of the subject.

What you've failed to respond to is the fact that spending bills are almost NEVER single item acts. They're almost always large lists that include all kinds of things, some vital, others pure pork. The house has a strong pork habit, you know. So, funding for Gitmo would be buried in among lots of essential things that would be very difficult to veto.

So, now please explain, if you can, whether or not the president has line item veto authority. With that little ink stamp you mentioned and all, if you'd like to include that again in your cute little response.

If you get it right, you can proceed to the 4th grade level.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I haven't seen a Republican vote that says he may not close it.

Can you tell us when such a vote took place?
Sure. If the link in the OP wasn't enough for you.

<warning> Some reading will be required.

House GOP defense bill blocks Gitmo closing | Army Times | armytimes.com
House GOP bill keeps Gitmo open | Lansing State Journal | lansingstatejournal.com
House GOP Moves To Block Obama From Transferring Gitmo Detainees To America « Pat Dollard

Senate Republicans Vow to Keep Guantanamo Bay Open | TPMDC
House acts to block closing of Gitmo - Washington Times
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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Has Obama veto'd Guantanamo spending yet?
You can add this to your civic homework

Washingtonpost.com: Court Strikes Down Line-Item Veto
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Pubs have promised to keep it going by their continued votes against closing it. While at the same time whining about "why hasn't Obama kept his campaign promise?"

Nope. No cure for stupid.
Sure there is. Ballpeenerol. In massive doses.
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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From the linked article in the OP:



The RWNJs in Congress and their supporters: advocates of big, bigger and the biggest government with the power to imprison people without cause.
He made that promise more than four years ago with Lwnj in control of house and senate.

Face it ds, he had no intention of closing or would have as his first order of business as he promised.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/house-votes-to-support-keeping-guantanamo-bay-open-by-prohibiting-funds-for-facilities-in-us/2013/06/04/8770b4fe-cd70-11e2-8573-3baeea6a2647_story.html"]House votes to support keeping Guantanamo Bay open by prohibiting funds for facilities in US - The Washington Post[/URL]

So what's the end game here?
There is no "end game" there. GITMO is a valuable, if not vital, resource and will stay open in perpetuity, our Ethics-Free POTUS' mindless gibberish notwithstanding.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Really? Describe its value. Explain why it's vital. That is, explain what dire consequences will result from its closure.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Once again, Congress didn't run on a promise to close Gitmo, BO did. It appears he has all the power needed to keep his promise, yet refuses to do so without dragging Congress into the matter.

Perhaps this is why:

It&#x27;s Congress&#x27; Fault That Guantánamo Is Still Open - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com
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