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Old 06-07-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Not an Obama supporter but isnt it you idiots who said if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about????
Well, I just heard Senator Graham parrot that remark. Then again, he was in front of a camera.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Didn't she (Feinstein) want to take away every firearm from every American, just a month or two ago? Wonder what she could have been anticipating???
No.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Expands globally or revolution occurs.
People could set an ultimatum. If the NSA and similar institutions have not been disempowered by day x, the whole country will stop going to work. Within a few days the country would be on the verge of a total collapse and they would yield like butter as they can't arrest 100 or 200m people.
All people have to do is unite, dare to be brave and stand up for what they believe in before it is too late.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Well, now that the government has even more data, it's just some more information to match and append to your Obamacare file....Say, how many times per month did you call Pizza Hut to order a pizza?
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Well, now that the government has even more data, it's just some more information to match and append to your Obamacare file....Say, how many times per month did you call Pizza Hut to order a pizza?
With this administration's lack of compunction about using the awesome power of government to advance its political goals (see IRS), OBVIOUSLY the end justifies the means. If the Big Brother routine can make us healthier, then it is good for us, right? In the spirit of 1984, "Surveillance is Health. Monitoring is Life. Liberty is Death."
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Change wont come by voting.

So what is your solution? A violent revolution? Violence should ALWAYS be the last result.

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Things seem to be going in the same direction as they did in the former East Germany, where government and secret services had their noses in everything. And it did not end well for that country...
It does seem that we are heading that way doesn't it.

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Our government has been doing this for quiet a long time. Now the technology makes it easier.

It doesn't suprise me.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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So what is your solution? A violent revolution? Violence should ALWAYS be the last result.



It does seem that we are heading that way doesn't it.




It doesn't suprise me.
Revolution doesn't always have violent. First thing people could do people could do return all the valueless money back the the Fed. Piling it right in front of their buildings.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Didn't she (Feinstein) want to take away every firearm from every American, just a month or two ago?
No. Nobody has ever stated or attempted anything like that at all.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:02 AM
 
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Does anyone know how many people accused of terrorism in the US came into the US on a visa? What percent out of all terror activities in the since, and including, the 9/11 attacks?

And further on; what percent of US born people accused of terrorism had known contact with people associated with radical Islam, and this informaiton was known to the government before the attack or attempted attack occurred?
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Does anyone know how many people accused of terrorism in the US came into the US on a visa? What percent out of all terror activities in the since, and including, the 9/11 attacks?

And further on; what percent of US born people accused of terrorism had known contact with people associated with radical Islam, and this informaiton was known to the government before the attack or attempted attack occurred?
You're barking up the wrong tree. Since 9-11, right-wing extremists have plotted twice as many explosive-based attacks than "Muslims."

"Of the 380 individuals indicted for acts of political violence or for conspiring to carry out such attacks in the U.S. since 9/11, 77 were able to obtain explosives or the components necessary to build a bomb, according to a count by the New America Foundation.

Of those, 48 were right-wing extremists, 23 were militants inspired by al Qaeda's ideology, five have been described as anarchists and one was an environmentalist terrorist."


http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/opinion/bergen-bombings
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