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Old 06-10-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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The state is Hawaii.
OK, I'm sorry to be slow. Haven't had enough caffeine today.

To be clear, you are saying that Mr. Hayes is a registered Democrat in the state of Hawaii?

 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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Wishful thinking, huh? ROFL!!!
Hmmm. Which court(s) do you think will see it? Certainly not the Supreme Court of Alabama. No appellate court will ever see it.

This is how it will go:

1) File lawsuit.

2) Court: Dismiss due to jurisdiction.

3) Appeal.

4) Appellate court: Uphold #3

5) Repeat as necessary.

The thing is, #3 is based on #2 not based on merits of #1. That's why the appeals court won't see it. The appeals court (in this case the Supreme Court of Alabama) is not looking at the merits of the case. They are only looking at whether the case should have been dismissed or not. If they decide that it was improper for the circuit court to dismiss then it goes back to them for the merits. It's not like the supreme court is going to say "#2 was wrong to dismiss so we'll try the whole thing here - let's have some testimony". That's not their job.

And so far, no one has been foolish enough to file Hayes' report with the court.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:17 PM
 
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Think how the election would have ended, had all these progressive political scandals, come out before the primaries....

Someone has crapped on the path we travel.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:27 PM
 
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Wishful thinking, huh? ROFL!!!
i'm sure plenty of people that matter will have the opportunity to see the information when it comes out in zullo's book.


will they see it during court proceedings or a congressional hearing?.............. magic 8 ball says "outlook not very good"
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No, that would be you. Apparently, you're coming up short on the facts. Educate yourself, please.
No. It's you. You're the one who brought up Hayes's partner in the bizarre belief that it had anything to do with Hayes's political beliefs.

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Furthermore, I distinctly said Hayes' male life partner was a lawyer for the ACLU.
And nobody gives a **** about Hayes's life partner. Now either try to keep up with the actual discussion or go away, because as furiously as you try to toss out red herring and set up straw men, the rest of us are not stupid enough to fall for them.

The issue is Hayes, nobody else. The OP says he is a registered Democrat. This has been proven to be a lie. Yet... for some reason, you insist on trying to defend that lie. So either actually defend it or admit you cannot, because your attempt to take some sort of intermediate position only makes you look dazed and confused.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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PARTIAL Client List:
I've read it several times. Even ignoring that Hayes can make up anything he wants on his own CV, You are still lying about what it actually says.

It says nothing about Hayes testifying in any case whatsoever for Perkins-Coie... Let alone provides evidence for your delusional fantasy that the imaginary testimony took place "with no problem whatsoever."

You really, really, really have to stop making **** up.

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The list is PARTIAL because there are are MANY more law firms than just those listed who've presented Hayes' expert testimony in legal matters.
Again, you have to stop making **** up. Hayes lists a whole lot of alleged "clients" but less than 30 cases in which he allegedly provided "testimony." We know for a fact that in at least some of those cases, he actually provided no testimony at all... simply delivering to his paying clients reports that never made it into court.

So I'll ask again. Can you name a single case in which Hayes ever provided "expert testimony" for Perkins-Coie?

A single one?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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OK, I'm sorry to be slow. Haven't had enough caffeine today.

To be clear, you are saying that Mr. Hayes is a registered Democrat in the state of Hawaii?
No, I said the state in which Hayes has based his expert document analysis services, providing expert witness testimony on the veracity and validity of legal documents, is Hawaii.

A PARTIAL list of Hayes' clients:
  • Melodie R. Aduja, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Nathan T. K. Aipa, Esq., Pitluk Kido & Aipa, Honolulu, HI
  • Hayden Aluli, Esq., Wailuku, HI
  • Charles L. Anderson, Esq., Vancouver, BC, Canada
  • Mary Ann Barnard, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Scott I. Batterman, Esq., Bendet Fidell Sakai & Lee, Honolulu, HI
  • Belt Collins HI, Ltd., Edean Hayashida, Exec. Admin., Honolulu, HI
  • Joshua S. Berger, Esq., White Pierce Mailman & Nutting, Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands
  • Timothy J. Bilecki, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Ralph D. Black, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Bradford F. K. Bliss, Esq., Lyons Brandt Cook & Hiramatsu, Honolulu, HI
  • Charles H. Brower, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Body Glove Cruises, Kailua-Kona, HI
  • Trevor Brown, Esq., Chun Kerr Dodd, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Thomas Bush, Esq., McCorriston Miho Miller, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Edward J. Bybee, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Bruce K. Campbell, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Ionescu Carmen, Bucharest, Romania
  • John S. Carroll, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Central Pacific Bank, Rita Flynn, Human Resources, Honolulu, HI
  • Robert E. Chapman, Esq., Clay Chapman Crumpton, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • Julie China, Esq., Alcantara & Frame, Honolulu, HI
  • Marshall D. Chinen, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Stanley M. Chow, Esq., Char Hamilton Campbell & Thom, Honolulu, HI
  • Richard C. F. Chun, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Mark D. Clement, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Mary J. Cochran, Esq., Kahului, HI
  • Dan A. Colon, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • William F. Cooper, Esq., State of HI, Dept. of Attorney General
  • Stuart M. Cowan, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Robert J. Crudele, Esq., Crudele DeLima & Shiroma, Hilo, HI
  • Paul Cunny, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Everett Cuskaden, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Douglas Daley, Esq., Saipan
  • Wieden Daley, Esq., Hart Muirhead & Fatta, Kingston, Jamaica, West Indies
  • William J. Deeley, Esq., Deeley King & Pang, Honolulu, HI
  • Brian J. De Lima, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Shirley A. Devaris, Esq., Kailua, HI
  • Richard J. Diehl, Esq., Diehl & Weger, Honolulu, HI
  • David W. Dooley, Esq., Dooley Roberts & Fowler, Tamuning, Guam
  • Richard F. Dvonch, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • DynAir Corporation, Bill Lane, Dir. Operations, Honolulu, HI
  • Erik D. Eike, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • John S. Edmunds, Esq., Edmunds Maki Verga & Thorn, Honolulu, HI
  • Randall H. Endo, Esq., Carlsmith, Ball, et al., Wailuku, HI
  • Duocrave, Ltd., Paul Feldman, Owner/CEO, London, England
  • Brian A. Duus, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Evergreen School, Shoreline, WA, Robert Miller, CEO
  • Finest Kind, Inc., Capt. David Hudson, Lahaina, HI
  • First Hawaiian Bank, Margarita P. Dayao, Assistant Vice President, Trust & Investments Div., Honolulu, HI
  • Fletcher Pacific Construction Co., Honolulu, HI
  • James H. Fosbinder, Esq., Wailuku, HI
  • Fujiuchi Investigations, Inc., Lihue, HI
  • T. Anthony Gill, Esq., Gill & Zukaran, Honolulu, HI
  • J. Grant Giventer, Esq., Office of Public Defender, Honolulu, HI
  • GMP Associates, Inc., Peter B. Melnyk, PhD., Executive Vice President, Tamuning, Guam
  • Adelbert Green, Esq., Dwyer Imanaka, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Jeffrey A. Griswold, Esq., Lyons, Brandt Cook & Hiramatsu, Honolulu, HI
  • Tom Griswold, Esq., Wailuku, HI
  • Hawaiian Airlines, Brian Worth—Sr. Director, Customer Service, Kahului, HI
  • Stephen T. Hioki, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Thomas T. M. Ho, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Hollywood Theaters, Joe Cuculich, District Manager, Honolulu, HI
  • Glenn Horio, Esq., Deely King & Pang, Honolulu, HI
  • R. Patrick Jaress, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • HI Medical Service Assoc., Janna Nakagawa, Mgr. Employee Relations, Honolulu, HI
  • Charles Heaukulani, Esq., Carlsmith Ball Wichman, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Kevin W. Herring, Esq., Ashford Wriston, Honolulu, HI
  • Glenn T. Honda, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Glenn S. Horio, Esq, Deely King & Pang, Honolulu, HI
  • Clayton C. Ikei, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Steven T. Iwamura, Esq., Stanton Clay Chapman, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Jared H. Jossem, Esq., Vernor, Liipford, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Chester M. Kanai, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Stanley T. Kanetake, Esq., Kailua, HI
  • Thomas J. Kaster, Esq., Law Firm of Melvin Belli, San Francisco, CA
  • Jared Kawashima, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Jim Kawashima, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Bridget Ann Keith, Esq., Judiciary of Guam
  • Thomas Kellenberg, Esq., Perkins Coie, Seattle, Washington
  • Jo Kim, Esq., Paauilo, HI
  • Jodi L. Kimura, Esq., Ayabe, Chong, Nishimoto, Honolulu, HI
  • Dennis W. King, Esq., Deeley, King & Pang, Honolulu, HI
  • Patsy H. Kirio, Esq., Watanabe Ing & Kawashima, Honolulu, HI
  • Charles T. Kleintop, Esq., Stirling & Kleintop, Honolulu, HI
  • Rexford C. Kosack, Esq., Saipan
  • Marie Kosegarten, Esq., Deputy Prosecuting Attorney, Wailuku, HI
  • David H. Lawton, Esq., Hualalai Legal Group, Kona, Hawaii
  • Edquon Lee, Esq., Lyons, Brandt, Cook & Hiramatsu, Honolulu, HI
  • Mervyn W. Lee, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Peter V. Lee, Esq., Stanton, Clay, Chapman, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • Peter J. Lenhart, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Kurt K. Leong, Esq., Oliver, Lau, Lawhn, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • T. Stephen Leong, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Richard Lewallen, Esq., Lyons Brandt Cook & Hiramatsu, Honolulu, HI
  • Michael A. Lilly, Esq., Ning Lilly & Jones, Honolulu, HI
  • Paul Lucas, Esq., Native Hawaiian Legal Defense Corp., Honolulu, HI
  • Ben T. Manayan, Jr., Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Barry Marr, Esq., Carlsmith Ball Wichman, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • Mary L. Martin, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Robert P. Marx, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • S. Jay Matsumaru, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • David P. McCauley, Esq., Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert, Honolulu, HI
  • Dyan M. Medeiros, Esq., Stirling & Kleintop, Honolulu, HI
  • Ernest C. Moore III, Esq., Torkildson Katz Fonseca, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • Dawn N. Murata, Esq., Lihue, HI
  • Dean T. Nagamine, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Margaret J. Nakamatsu, Esq., Est8Planning Counsel, LLLC, Honolulu, HI
  • Nathan Natori, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Jeffrey W. Ng, Office of Public Defender, Honolulu, HI
  • Leanne A. N. Nikaido, Esq., Paul Johnson Park & Niles, Honolulu, HI
  • Robert L. S. Nip, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Vincent J. Nip, M.D., Honolulu, HI
  • Rodney Nishida, Esq., Ayabe Chong & Nishimoto, Honolulu, HI
  • Jeanne O’Brien, Esq., Kailua-Kona, HI
  • Stuart Oda, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Jean Orque-Lee, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • William Ornellas, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Carl H. Osaki, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Stanton C. Oshiro, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Outrigger Canoe Club, John Rader, Jr., Honolulu, HI
  • Randy Oyama, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Pacific Tank Cleaning Services, Ralph Orozco, Vice-President, San Diego, CA
  • Pacific Transfer & Warehouse, Honolulu, HI
  • Richard T. Pafundi, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • R. B. Pamplin Corporation, Portland, OR
  • Paradise Park, Inc., Honolulu, HI
  • Arthur Y. Park, Esq., Park Kim Yu & Remillard, Honolulu, HI
  • Melody A. Parker, Esq., Office of the Public Defender, Hilo, HI
  • David J. Pierguidi, Esq., The Pagan Law Firm, P.C., New York City, NY
  • Eric J. Piesner, Esq., Chun Chipchase Takayama & Nagatani, Honolulu, HI
  • Stephen Pingree, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • John H. Price, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Bradley R. Pulice, Esq., Stanton, Clay, Chapman, et al., Honolulu, HI
  • Pu’ulu Lapa’au, Honolulu, HI, Kevin Kunz, M.D., Program Director
  • Antonio V. Ramil, Esq., Wailuku, HI
  • Laurent J. Remillard, Esq., Park Kim Yu & Remillard, Honolulu, HI
  • Gary Robert, Esq., Lahaina, HI
  • Joy San Buenaventura, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Adrienne Sanders, Esq., Maximum Legal Services Corp. Honolulu, HI
  • Gerald Scatena, Esq., Pacific States Legal Group, Kailua-Kona, HI
  • John W. Schmidtke, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Sheraton Moana Surfrider Hotel, Davie Felipe, Director of Security, Honolulu, HI
  • Sheraton Royal Hawaiian Hotel, Marc Bennor, Human Resources Manager, Honolulu, HI
  • Craig K. Shikuma, Esq., Kobayashi Sugita & Goda, Honolulu, HI
  • Kenneth J. Shimozono, Esq., Takemoto & Simozono, Honolulu, HI
  • Claudia B. Shockley, Esq, Honolulu, HI
  • Heber Simmons, Esq., Simmons Law Group, Jackson, MS
  • Donald L. Spafford, Jr., Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Rochelle Sparko, Esq., Legal Aid Society of Hawaii, Honolulu, HI
  • St. Francis School, Sr. Joan of Arc Souza, OSF, Honolulu, HI
  • Thomas L. Stirling, Jr., Esq., Stirling & Kleintop, Honolulu, HI
  • James J. Stone, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Scott T. Strack, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Steven D. Strauss, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Richard Striker, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Allan F. Suematsu, Esq., Suematsu & Lee, Honolulu, HI
  • Curtis T. Tabata, Esq., Matsubara Lee, et al, Honolulu, HI
  • Bradley R. Tamm, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Arnold T. Phillips II, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Van-Alan H. Shima, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Carroll Taylor, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Alika Thoene, Esq., Hilo, HI
  • Roland Q. F. Thom, Esq., Char Hamilton Campbell & Thom, Honolulu, HI
  • Raymond P. Tiernan, Esq., Lihue, HI
  • Tour Park Hawaii, Peter Yi, President, Honolulu, HI
  • Ivan L. Van Leer, Esq., Pahoa, HI
  • Neil J. Verbrugge, Esq, Honolulu, HI
  • Sheila Vierra, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Thomas T. Watts, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Jan M. Weinberg, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Donald L. Wilkerson, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Carl Williams, D.C., Watsonville, CA
  • Colin Wilson, Cornwall, England
  • Todd Withy, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Eric M. K. Wong, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • James T. Wong, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Michael J. Y. Wong, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Sandra-Ann Y. K. Wong, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • John H. Wright, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Darren Li Wu, Esq., Coates & Frey, Honolulu, HI
  • Randal S. Yoshida, Esq., Honolulu, HI
  • Bryant Zane, Esq., Office of the Public Defender, Honolulu, HI
  • Mark R. Zenger, Esq., Richards & Zenger, Lihue, HI
  • William I. Zimmerman, Esq., Van Pernis Smith & Vancil, Kailua-Kona, HI
Mr. Reed Hayes | Expert Witness Directory

Hayes' expert conclusion: Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Think how the election would have ended, had all these progressive political scandals, come out before the primaries....
Oh... the Republicans were trying to invent fake scandals then too.

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Someone has crapped on the path we travel.
You must live someplace else. Here where I live, the crap get's picked up.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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No, I said the state in which Hayes has based his expert document analysis services, providing expert witness testimony on the veracity and validity of legal documents, is Hawaii.

A PARTIAL list of Hayes' clients:
Hayes' expert conclusion: Obama's birth certificate is a forgery.
Whoa. That's an awful long answer to a question I didn't ask.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Oh... the Republicans were trying to invent fake scandals then too.


You must live someplace else. Here where I live, the crap get's picked up.

Here, were rub their noses in it, and throw them out the door.
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