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If you want to know the truth about these secret societies, you will read this page. If you don't, then you have made a choice to be a victim of your own ignorance. You have made a choice to sell out your Constitution and Bill of Rights to Communism, Global Governance.
It's impossible for it to be a religion because they accept members of all religions equally. Masonry has no path to salvation for members to follow. It has none of the characteristics that make up a religion. As a matter of fact, an attempt to make masonry a religion would be considered unmasonic conduct and would likely result in that person being expelled. I've probably been to more masonic funerals than you have, since I have gone with a lodge many many times.
Book of constitutions, South Carolina
The lambskin is therefore to remind you of that purity of life and rectitude of conduct which is so essentially necessary to your gaining admission to that Celestial lodge above, where the supreme Architect of the universe presides.
Right from the very begining the mason is initiated into the masonic beliefs of salvation by works.
If this is not "Religion" the term has no meaning at all.
It is not a religion at all, and the ignorance of people who come here and post things that are not even close to being the truth is amazing. If you know nothing about a subject you should not comment.
Is Masonry a Religion? Masonry is not a religion. But it is one of the few platforms where men of all faiths - Christians, including Catholics, Jews, Muslims, and men of every other faith - can come together because it is open to all men who believe in a Supreme Being; but religion is not discussed at Masonic meetings. Although Lodges open and close with a prayer and Masonry teaches morality, it is not a church or a religion. Masonry does not have a theology or dogma, it does not offer sacraments, and it does not offer the promise of salvation.
but this is one of the problems we face, so many connect it with religion just because there are so many references to a supreme being. How they connect the two I don't know.
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we have one by us that '' seems'' to be AA exclusive
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Originally Posted by mensaguy
In many states there are two organizations running in parallel. The second is called the Prince Hall Lodge. Most of the members of the Prince Hall Lodge are African Americans. There is no written rule, and no mason will ever admit to it, but informally it was segregated at one time, and traces of it remain to this day.
My understanding, from my Masonic training (Wikipedia also will address this) is that a Freemason is 'freeborn'. In ritual, this is historic. The significance being that a freeborn person is one who is NOT born to a slave mother. That would historically preclude most AA's.
It was the creation of the Prince Hall Lodge that allowed AA's to have a Masonic affiliation. However, in the U.S., most jurisdiction did not recognize Prince Hall, thus no cross visitation. Those rules have changed and U.S. Grand Lodges are now in recognition of Prince Hall Lodges. Wikipedia also addresses Prince Hall.
Not that I use Wikipedia for my education, it's just a handy reference for the casual observer. If I want supportable detail, I'll do my own research.
Book of constitutions, South Carolina
The lambskin is therefore to remind you of that purity of life and rectitude of conduct which is so essentially necessary to your gaining admission to that Celestial lodge above, where the supreme Architect of the universe presides.
Right from the very begining the mason is initiated into the masonic beliefs of salvation by works.
If this is not "Religion" the term has no meaning at all.
You mean that reminding a man "that purity of life and rectitude of conduct which is so essentially necessary to your gaining admission to that Celestial lodge above" is all it takes to make a religion? Geez! Every religious person should be going to their pastor and complaining about all they have to obtain salvation when all the masons have to do is wear a white apron.
Book of constitutions, South Carolina
The lambskin is therefore to remind you of that purity of life and rectitude of conduct which is so essentially necessary to your gaining admission to that Celestial lodge above, where the supreme Architect of the universe presides.
Right from the very begining the mason is initiated into the masonic beliefs of salvation by works.
If this is not "Religion" the term has no meaning at all.
If you want to know the truth about these secret societies, you will read this page. If you don't, then you have made a choice to be a victim of your own ignorance. You have made a choice to sell out your Constitution and Bill of Rights to Communism, Global Governance.
[quote=Willsson;29972287]My understanding, from my Masonic training (Wikipedia also will address this) is that a Freemason is 'freeborn'. In ritual, this is historic. The significance being that a freeborn person is one who is NOT born to a slave mother. That would historically preclude most AA's.
It was the creation of the Prince Hall Lodge that allowed AA's to have a Masonic affiliation. However, in the U.S., most jurisdiction did not recognize Prince Hall, thus no cross visitation. Those rules have changed and U.S. Grand Lodges are now in recognition of Prince Hall Lodges. Wikipedia also addresses Prince Hall.
Not that I use Wikipedia for my education, it's just a handy reference for the casual observer. If I want supportable detail, I'll do my own research.[/quote)
You must be a man, freeborn, and under the tongue of good report.
I don't care how many times you repeat that lie, the fact of the matter is that it is. It is Theistic, has it's own beliefs about eternity and it has it's hope for salvation of these earthly bodies. It's just dumb to say it's not a religion.
An argument masons often use to deny the fact of a masonic religion is that it has no dogma in many areas. Well, by that argument Hinduism would not be a religion either. All new age religions would not fit this definition the masons use either.
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