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View Poll Results: Should animals be legally equal to humans?
Yes 8 16.67%
No 40 83.33%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-08-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Deep Green Resistance believes not only are animals equals but all life is. Deep Green Resistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While I don't think humans are superior to other animals I think giving human rights to other animals is very problematic. I do support laws against animal cruelty as long as they aren't used as a way to increase police presence and the prison population, and I could agree with giving primates and cetaceans some kind of "Non-Human Person" status. But the idea of making all animals let alone all species legally equal would lead to nothing but moral relativism.
Equal rights? I'll have to ponder that for a bit since it's not exactly an question that can be answered in text-message like fashion.

In the meantime what would your life be like without bees...

Life on Earth certainly would cease to exist if it were filled with humans alone so I tend to favor the Yin-Yang theory of balance and that you don't particularly have any say in the matter.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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So...
If a superior (intelligence, technology) race came down from space and treated us like we treat many animals, I wonder if our answers would be different.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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If my cat kills a mouse, will charges be brought against him?

was it a pet mouse? a common everyday house mouse? or was it a bush mouse? did the mouse have rabies or other transmittable diseases? was it a big mouse? was the mouse injured at the time of the kill? was it a nuisance mouse? did the mouse steal food from the perpetrator? did the mouse have a large family??

see where this is going
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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What is the difference?
You mean you don't see the danger in a diamondback rattlesnake, grizzly bear, cougar, wolverine, gator........VS your Golden Retriever?

Come on, you can't give me that.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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Huh? How can you give equal rights to animals? They are incapable of exercising most of the rights humans possess.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Huh? How can you give equal rights to animals? They are incapable of exercising most of the rights humans possess.
Agreed, except for bears. Bears already have arms, they just need the right to keep them
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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Huh? How can you give equal rights to animals? They are incapable of exercising most of the rights humans possess.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

The only one in question is happiness.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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Equal rights? I'll have to ponder that for a bit since it's not exactly an question that can be answered in text-message like fashion.

In the meantime what would your life be like without bees...

Life on Earth certainly would cease to exist if it were filled with humans alone so I tend to favor the Yin-Yang theory of balance and that you don't particularly have any say in the matter.

That sums it up pretty much. When the cockroaches and gators are still around after the "apocalypse" it will start once again.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...

The only one in question is happiness.
Happiness is most important of all. I stress that at all times to my children. Hopefully they will listen. They are humans though.............lol
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Equal rights? I'll have to ponder that for a bit since it's not exactly an question that can be answered in text-message like fashion.

In the meantime what would your life be like without bees...

Life on Earth certainly would cease to exist if it were filled with humans alone so I tend to favor the Yin-Yang theory of balance and that you don't particularly have any say in the matter.

artificial drone bees would take the place of real bees, and Monsanto will be at the helm..


Robotic (Drone)Bees To Pollinate/Monitor Crops!! 5/6/2013 - YouTube
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