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Old 06-11-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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Yea and it gets better. Booze Allen is 2/3 owned by the Bush/Cheney/et el, Carlyle Group, with Soros as another stock holder. All of them are card carrying NWO supporters.

While Snowden did everyday people a favor by exposing the extent of the data gathering, I wonder if he wasn't "played" in a TPTB power play? I'm Still looking.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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Mr Snowden had many options. His congressman, senator, FBI, and more. He chose to sell his secrets instead. A patriot wouldn't seek financial compensation for delivering secrets if his intentions are honorable.
Mr Snowden does not seem to be an honorable man.
He's is honorable to the highest degree. Would you but your butt on the line for others? Obviously not from your comment. I will remind you he didn't sell "secrets". He only revealed the overwhelming extent to what the NSA had already said they were doing.

Seriously, Fienstien knows more that Snowden ever will. And she is calling him a traitor. His information would have fallen on deaf ears with the 535 lapdogs in DC.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Nah, he could have taped the interview anywhere on the planet, even in his own basement. Did Bib Laden travel to Hong Kong to tape his speeches?
But bin Laden's purpose was completely different from Snowden's. All bin Laden cared about was rallying fanatics to his cause. That is why he released his statements on jihadi websites. He wasn't making any fact claims; He didn't need to provide any evidence. He was just a propagandist.

Snowden was not a propagandist, but a whisleblower. As such, he needed to provide verifiable PROOF of what he was saying. Plus, he was concerned that the information he released not endanger anyone. That is why he went to The Guardian and enlisted the help of experienced journalists in decided what should be released and how.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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Yea and it gets better. Booze Allen is 2/3 owned by the Bush/Cheney/et el, Carlyle Group, with Soros as another stock holder. All of them are card carrying NWO supporters.

While Snowden did everyday people a favor by exposing the extent of the data gathering, I wonder if he wasn't "played" in a TPTB power play? I'm Still looking.
Have to pay attention. There are certainly some angles that can be played here.
Lots of Drama and distraction occurring also.
That link includes some interesting info on the same companies.
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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??? CIA/Swat teams then comes to his house, picks him up, and we never see him again?
The CIA comes over if you use your cam-coder? Why didn't they zero in on Bin Ladens cam coder? Why, because they can't. It does not matter where you make a video tape, be it your back yard, or Hong Kong.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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But bin Laden's purpose was completely different from Snowden's. All bin Laden cared about was rallying fanatics to his cause. That is why he released his statements on jihadi websites. He wasn't making any fact claims; He didn't need to provide any evidence. He was just a propagandist.

Snowden was not a propagandist, but a whisleblower. As such, he needed to provide verifiable PROOF of what he was saying. Plus, he was concerned that the information he released not endanger anyone. That is why he went to The Guardian and enlisted the help of experienced journalists in decided what should be released and how.
The motivations are irrelevant to where the tapes are made. He could have taped his interview anywhere, and there was no reason to go to Hong Kong to do that. He could have taped it in his basement. So, what was he doing in China?
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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Have to pay attention. There are certainly some angles that can be played here.
Lots of Drama and distraction occurring also.
That link includes some interesting info on the same companies.
CDusr allow me to get you started.

Z Big News… Dave Is Snowed In « Trade With Dave

From 9/11 To PRISMgate - How The Carlyle Group LBO'd The World's Secrets
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Would you but your butt on the line for others? Obviously not from your comment. I will remind you he didn't sell "secrets". He only revealed the overwhelming extent to what the NSA had already said they were doing.

Seriously, Fienstien knows more that Snowden ever will. And she is calling him a traitor. His information would have fallen on deaf ears with the 535 lapdogs in DC.
There was no reason for him to make his name and face known. He would have released the story and never reveal his identity. You are not asking the right questions. Why did he make his name and face known? Why did he go to China to do it?
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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There was no reason for him to make his name and face known. He would have released the story and never reveal his identity. You are not asking the right questions. Why did he make his name and face known? Why did he go to China to do it?
Well I guess I'm really missing it then. So please enlighten me 'why'.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What a rabbit hole.

The NSA spying connections go back to the uber wealthy bin Laden family in Saudia Arabia.

I always said there's a small circle at the top.
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