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Old 06-15-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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But actually they were advised. Even the Russians warned them. No different than warning about pilot training by FBNI agent or the shooter in the last shooting having made threats to do just what he did. Its just that nothing was done as far as being effect to so called protect the public. We have known for a long time that the church commission basically destroyed our human intelligence gathering which was clearly shown with the WMDs in Irag problems. With those examples alone I fail to see how having cellphone records mean much if they do not show evidence of prep to commit attacks and not much organized terrorist can't get around it easily. Reminds me of the letter to policy warning them that veterans should be watched as highly potential terrorist when police departments are loaded with a high percentage of veterans. I think we are seeing more and more that citizens are the target rather than any terrorist in watching them for who knows what political purpose. Just increasing spying to increase funding based and not acting on what you get is useless. The same could be applied to street crime that threatens use everyday but no one wants that.





That's a main reason why this is so ridiculous.
All the warnings and foreknowledge on top of the snooping was lacking in results in a most pitiful way.

The incompetent and misguided still think we should trust them though.
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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According to the "Heritage Foundation" the Patriot Act/NSA has stopped 50 terrorist attacks since Sept 11.

50 Terror Attacks Foiled Since 9/11


How on Earth can anyone say the NSA is not doing a good job ??
It's easy. This has been brought up before and dismissed. It doesn't matter, it will be brought up over and over still. Let's take the very first one.

1. Richard Reid—December 2001.

The NSA did NOT stop him. The people on the airplane did. He waltzed onto the airplane with a bomb in his shoe. Nobody stopped him. It was only after he tried to set it off that people around him reacted and stopped him.

What exactly did the NSA do here?
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Run along sugar pie, adults are talking.
An adult would know that prostitutes come in both sexes. It must have been a shock to you to find out, but there you have it.
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Poor Sarah. She continues to believe she's relevant.
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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And?
Remember this is someone who quit her elected position to be a media *****.
But, if that's your role model, that's your role model.
Jealously doesn't look good on you at all. She has for more accomplishments than you could ever even dream of.. She is a success, you are a CD ********
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's easy. This has been brought up before and dismissed. It doesn't matter, it will be brought up over and over still. Let's take the very first one.

1. Richard Reid—December 2001.

The NSA did NOT stop him. The people on the airplane did. He waltzed onto the airplane with a bomb in his shoe. Nobody stopped him. It was only after he tried to set it off that people around him reacted and stopped him.

What exactly did the NSA do here?


The flight in 2001 departed from Paris for Miami. Back then no airport checked passenger's shoes. They still do not do so in the EU or most non U.S. domestic airports for that matter.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: texas
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Couldn’t Find ‘Two Pot-Smoking Bostonians With Hotline To Terrorist Central?’



Palin Blasts NSA: Couldn’t Find ‘Two Pot-Smoking Bostonians With Hotline To Terrorist Central?’ | Mediaite


“Our government spied on every single one of your phone calls,” she said, “but it couldn’t find two pot-smoking deadbeat Bostonians with a hotline to terrorist central in Chechnya. Really? And it’s built apparatus to sneak into all of the good guys’ communications, but oopsy-daisy! It missed the Fort Hood mass-murder of our own troops, despite this Islamic terrorist declaring his ideology in numerous army counseling sessions and on his own business cards. But no red flags there. Really?”




Yeah, I know, you hate Sarah Palin because she is pretty and dumb and married to an Union Member Eskimo and did not abort her Down Syndrome Baby but.....


She is right.
You say she's right but forget she wanted desprerately to be part of the goon squad.She wanted to be the first goonette. You think Sarah Palin would be telling John..."something wrong here"?

Hell NO. She be up to her pretty little knees like the rest of them.
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Jealously doesn't look good on you at all. She has for more accomplishments than you could ever even dream of.. She is a success, you are a CD ********

Game.
Set.
Match.

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Old 06-15-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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The flight in 2001 departed from Paris for Miami. Back then no airport checked passenger's shoes. They still do not do so in the EU or most non U.S. domestic airports for that matter.
I do not think that addresses my question. He is on a list of NSA successes. How did the NSA succeed here?
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Old 06-15-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Couldn’t Find ‘Two Pot-Smoking Bostonians With Hotline To Terrorist Central?’



Palin Blasts NSA: Couldn’t Find ‘Two Pot-Smoking Bostonians With Hotline To Terrorist Central?’ | Mediaite


“Our government spied on every single one of your phone calls,” she said, “but it couldn’t find two pot-smoking deadbeat Bostonians with a hotline to terrorist central in Chechnya. Really? And it’s built apparatus to sneak into all of the good guys’ communications, but oopsy-daisy! It missed the Fort Hood mass-murder of our own troops, despite this Islamic terrorist declaring his ideology in numerous army counseling sessions and on his own business cards. But no red flags there. Really?”




Yeah, I know, you hate Sarah Palin because she is pretty and dumb and married to an Union Member Eskimo and did not abort her Down Syndrome Baby but.....


She is right.
And with that, Ms. Palin knows more than the NSA, IRS, DOJ, State, and their collective Superiors about what's going on and who's in charge. And if the media is paying attention to her then they're finally doing their jobs. To which we are now all observers.

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