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"In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes."
But it could. The State Department is waving off committing to an opinion one way or the other.
Which is a good thing, since it's an opinion above their pay grade.
It means that the State Department is unwilling to commit one way or the other. And that's okay, because its not their job under the Constitution.
It's Congress's.
He cannot accept those few words. Not knowing the true meaning of basic words sure isn't going to make people (normal people) trust him with Constitutional words.
And that's after being stuck on include <> exclude. He sees them as the same.
The president of the United States of America has to be loyal to the USA only. It is right there in the constitution, unless that has changed recently too.
The State Department link I posted even details the specific instances in which a foreign born US citizen is considered a "natural born" citizen, ie, those born in the Panama Canal Zone prior to Carter's give away, etc. You can read I know, because you respond to posts. Read it.
The State Department link I posted even details the specific instances in which a foreign born US citizen is considered a "natural born" citizen, ie, those born in the Panama Canal Zone prior to Carter's give away, etc. You can read I know, because you respond to posts. Read it.
Your example fails in the fact that if born in a territory of the United States including the Panama Canal zone as mentioned in the above doc is not foreign born.
And unfortunately the document doesn't have NBC in it. The government for the most part has an avoidance issue with that word.
I'm trying to list the birther variety of citizens since Batman and Robin won't provide a list.
These seem to be the type of citizens and nationals. Let me know if I missed one.
1) Natural born citizen. Must be born on U.S. soil (Jus soli) and have sole allegiance to the Unitied States.
2) Citizens at birth that are not naturally born citizens because they are born abroad but to American citizens (Jus sanguinis)
3) Nationals at birth due to being born on U.S. soil but not citizens. (I haven't been paying attention to the domicile sub thread but maybe that's why they think Obama isn't naturally born citizen)
4) Naturalized citizens. Those that were not born here or qualified by blood but have jumped through hoops.
There are 8 methods to be a national and citizen of the United States which is outlined in 8 USC § 1401. Birthers see the first two examples as being national and and citizen but the rest as being citizen only.
Being a citizen and being a natural born citizen which is what the president must be are two different things. You can be a citizen of the USA and not be a natural born citizen of the USA.
wrong. we are all citizens. Citizens encompasses only two types: Those who are born (natural born) and those who became citizens through naturalization (naturalized).
The US Constitution makes that distinction in the 14th Amendment.
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I have yet to see any evidence that Obama is a natural born citizen.
Yes you have, many times. Not our fault that you refuse to accept his legally certified and accepted birth certificate.
Can a subject of the Queen become president of the USA ?
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